[endideo clip] brian: did you meet bob hardy? joe: i did not meet bob hardy. hardy had been an informant and had information and funds from the fbi to make sure that actually down. i did not get to meet bob hardy but one of the members of the camden 28 wanted to make one of his own documentaries and had filmed interviews with bob hardy and with other people. he graciously allowed us to uses interview footage and our film. i believe that footage was from a film called the camden 28. clip am yourst documentary. -- from your documentary. liz mcallister was married to phil berrigan for how many years? joe: they married in probably 1969 or 1970's secretly, and until phil passed away in 2002 or 2003. brian: this is about the harrisburg conspiracy, trying to kidnap henry kissinger. in the end, there was something called the love letters back and forth between these two, phil berrigan and liz mcallister. [video clip] >> not saying that it wasn't talked about her approach, but it was no. that was it. tocourse, howard got back jager hoover in december. that's obvious. t