how many of your relatives can you hide in a $250,000 home? >> andrea: i thought you would be upset this favors the richest 1%. >> bob: it's no how many houses are the depressed market? not many. not many. >> dana: outside of -- >> eric: i think 250 is probably above the average cost. >> bob: maybe slightly above but sell the houses. if they're going under, why not sell it. >> greg: this is so much better than the community reinvestment act. because they have the money already. how can you be -- >> eric: they're illegal. >> greg: how are they illegal? they have visa. >> andrea: they are buying it. buy citizenship. >> eric: illegal until they buy the house. >> greg: they could get turned down. everybody is illegal by that logic. >> bob: are you against reagan's plan when he allowed people under the '86 law to -- >> dana: i was 12. >> bob: employ 20 people -- >> eric: we didn't have 9.1%. >> bob: i'm asking are you against that part of the law? >> eric: 20 million illegals in the country already. >> bob: hello! >> dana: another point in this, that is we've been talking about this it seems like for 20 years. the mexican trucks entering the united s

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holder is on the podium saying look how great we are. >> bob: good evening, ladies and gentlemen. >> greg: you could lose your mind. >> kimberly: that is what happens. >> bob: if eric holder is under oath as i understand it, and if in fact they can prove he lied there is serious trouble for him. you know what i think about issa. let that go. if there is proof positive then he is in trouble. >> kimberly: this is sound from greta talking about holder and whether he thinks he is attaints out lying or dodging the ball -- out and out lying. >> i believe the attorney general was dodging at best. lying perhaps, likely dodging. he knew fast and furious. he should have said that he knew about it for years but his answer was only a few weeks ago. that did not meet the test of law enforcement officer sworn to give us the whole truth. >> kimberly: depending how you look at it. holder has come out to repudiate the charges, the way it's been handled and investigated and the allegations against him. saying this is a misunderstanding. i thought they were referring to a different investigation goi

>> greg: i don't like talking about solyndra. >> bob: i don't like talking about solyndra either. howb: this is not important. allegations are not important. >> andrea: they're not allegations. >> bob: 3,000 of your best storm trooper cops down there, how did they get a trooper in. >> greg: that is degrading. >> bob: no. that that is the best ones. aren't they the best ones? >> greg: no. >> bob: sorry. >> greg: bernie madoff wife ruth spoke out about her ponzi-scheming husband last night. i think the only thing she stole was ladainian tomlinson'dana perino -- shestos haircut. my cohorts will tell you what they think. ♪ ♪ welcome idaho, where they grow america's favorite potoes. everyone knows idaho potatoes taste great. but did you know they'reood for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry the heart checkmark from the american heart assoction for foods low in saturated fat and cholesterol. so they're good for my family, and for yours. heart smart idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal. free gold ! we call that he

bob, how is it right now? >> we got a small crowd out here. good morning to you, marla. organizers say they're expecting hundreds of people. right now maybe there's 100 here at third and howard across from the w hotel where the president will be arriving within the next couple of hours for a $7,500 a plate luncheon, fund-raising luncheon. this is his third visit in over six months in the bay area. you have a mix of causes being represented by these protesters, a lot of anti-war. if you're not familiar with this sign, stop keystone xl, that's a pipeline that would run from the tar sands of canada through the united states. climate sicientists, some have argued if you were to tap into that, you would be releasing so much carbon, it would be very detrimental. people here are trying to get president obama to stop that pipeline. you're with the pipeline group and worked for obama in his headquarters in '08. >> that's right. >> reporter: did you envision yourself now, years later, after you worked with his election to be out here protesting against one of his policies? >> not

the first question is how do you solve the crime? >> bobgoing to allow people like you and eric here to take that and assume to make a broad statement they're a bunch of rapists. >> greg: i didn't even say the rain happened. >> bob: all right. the mere mention of it. we don't know if anything happened. >> kimberly: he is talking about the focus, how the focus is the movement instead of focusing on the victim. >> bob: i didn't focus on the guy with the gun and tea party down there when obama was giving a speech. >> dana: remember when the police went in and arrested people for blocking the bridge? now we have a serious allegation. when a woman says she was raped, let's take her seriously. >> bob: investigate it. that makes sense but not draw a conclusion this is somehow a bad -- >> dana: i don't think anyone did that. >> greg: talking about the media treatment. >> kimberly: the angle of the story. >> eric: the tea party that this happened and you know darn well mainstream media would have the tea party -- they have them at racists and they'd

>>> bob, how about the forecast. >> to the west, it is pretty much done in the area. it is in west virginia and to the south, more activity as we see in the front row. baltimore, northern maryland, some light showers today, but that is about it. way down to the south, about 4,000 miles away, believe it or not, a hurricane. it is the end of october and it is not tipd up yet. >>> it is really a hurricane way down in the south and there is a drift going on. what will happen? it will hang around for several days. that will be down to the south, but it could get stronger and become a cat door three hurricane and that is a major hurricane. here is another look at the model plot, one or two take it to the east, maybe towards florida and some to the west rings but way to the south for several days, we will cope you updated on that. more next. plap -- >>> coming up, the killer, an american killed by a great white shark in australia and they are looking for the predator. >>> they are looking at the bear hunting season in maryland. stay with us. . >>> fall is here, stick around

society and that's not going to be easy and it's not going to happen quickly but why we're out here bob how far are you willing to go short of violence i'm willing to do whatever it takes to get changes made in america all right so as you know by wall street movement has now grown really around the world but first starting across the country and so we had some people go out to occupy l.a. i thought if i do you see how we ask that there are any messages that they want us to bring here for you so let's take a listen right. happenings i think you need for bringing this about thank you citizens of america for having a voice keep doing what you're doing we're doing we're doing down here and we're all in this together solidarity gratitude an incredible amount of gratitude for your courage and an appreciation. of all you've done thank you for starting this the so exciting thank you mystery how proud you by wall street is that were installed there with you and working out down here and we hope you come visit a glorious notion would be to see people march from new york city down to one. in d.c. and

>> great, thanks for asking. >> bob, how are you? >> fine, good. >> excellent. >> you said the police in oakland were overreacting. oakland mayor quan seems to agree with you. she is now distancing herself from what the police did. she said she was away in washington when it all went down. >> does that mean she learned something? i think that the police tend to overreact in things like that. these are protesters who are against the establishment, and the police are there to protect the establishment like our host. why would they protect him? >> they don't want to lose their jobs. >> here is the thing. bob, i don't think it is fair to just say oh, the police are pigs. >> i am not suggesting they are pigs. i used to call them pigs. i was a lot younger. >> you know, the story about how all of these crimes, and they had their best cops down on wall street and everybody who hate the wall street people say they are a bunch of punks and drunks and homeless people. why do you need it to protect yourself then? >> i think you need them to prot

. >> bob, how is this playing in the region, this quite sudden removal? i know the agreement was to pull them out, how is this playing out in the region? >> everybody knows that the administration was trying to keep troops in, why, they're worried about stability in iraq and they're worried about iranian influence. that's whhow this is going to b viewed in the region. unfortunately it's going to be noticed very shortly after we uncovered an iranian plot to commit a terrorist act on american soil, very soon thereafter, we announced our withdrawal from iraq. in the region, it's going to look like a retreat. >> senator mccain joins us from amman, jordan, how do you withdrawal and the announcement that all forces including a residual force would be out by the end of this year? >> well, i think it's a serious mistake and there was never really serious negotiations between the administration and the iraqis, they could have clearly made an arrangement for u.s. troops. yes, i'm here in the region and yes, it is viewed in the region as a victory for the iranians a

good point. >> dana: open arms. >> bob: i'm particularly right for that. how does it go? orical. >> bob: this is great! >> kimberly: governor's island. >> they can do occupy wall street. >> kimberly: perfect. >> bob: anarchists and communists. hit again? let's go. >> kimberly: see the freedom tower. >> bob: mr. bolling. >> greg: i love the effort you're putting in this segment. >> kimberly: thank you. >> dana: kimberly -- >> ready! >> bob: oh! almost got me, boy. not quite. >> kimberly: the inmates escaped from the asylum. that's it for "the five." see you back on monday. happy halloween and

good point. >> dana: open arms. >> bob: i'm particularly right for that. how does it go? . >> bob: this is great! >> kimberly: governor's island. >> they can do occupy wall street. >> kimberly: perfect. >> bob: anarchists and communists. hit again? let's go. >> kimberly: see the freedom tower. >> bob: mr. bolling. >> greg: i love the effort you're putting in this segment. >> kimberly: thank you. >> dana: kimberly -- >> ready! >> bob: oh! almost got me, boy. not quite. >> kimberly: the inmates escaped from the asylum. that's it for "the five."

good point. >> dana: open arms. >> bob: i'm particularly right for that. how does it go? >> bob: this is great! >> kimberly: governor's island. >> they can do occupy wall street. >> kimberly: perfect. >> bob: anarchists and communists. hit again? let's go. >> kimberly: see the freedom tower. >> bob: mr. bolling. >> greg: i love the effort you're putting in this segment. >> kimberly: thank you. >> dana: kimberly -- >> ready! >> bob: oh! almost got me, boy. not quite. >> kimberly: the inmates escaped from the asylum.

. >> bob: how about the bridge to nowhere?he obama administration. >> bob: does the bridge to nowhere go to your house on the beach? >> eric: what are you talking about? >> bob: you act like democrats are the only ones that get involved in this stuff. >> eric: another one, we gave $1.6 billion to nissan to develop the leaf. think about that for a second. the leaf. nissan leaf. electric car. >> dana: you couldn't fit in it. >> eric: we're trying to make money on a chevy volt that is not selling and give nissan, japanese company -- >> dana: hold on a second. eric, nissan has a lot of american employees. >> eric: it's a japanese company. >> bob: so? >> dana: but my point is that -- >> eric: g.m., chrysler, boeing. >> andrea: dana, go ahead. >> dana: there are plenty of republicans and democrats that both lobby for this money. they wanted the program in the first place. they ask for it and they lobbied for the districts. i also think that secretary chu -- >> eric: underqualified. sorry. i apologize. >> dana: i think it's disgustin

bob, how much do these reversals hurt the candidates in their base?se of romney as a guy who has flip-flopped on everything. actually it's an unfair word. he's a shape shifter. he hasn't just move order gun control. look, he shifted on an dorgs rights. he shift order gn gay rights. he shift order t.a.r.p. he's had five different positions on libya. he's like the politicians that have you discovered he had cannibals, he promised the missionarieses for sunday supper. >> erin, let me show you this poll here it that republican voters said their priorities in select heing a nominee, 67% said that they want the one closest to it their views. only 31% said she want tthey wa that can beat president obama. now, if this is true, doesn't that mean that if you are a flip-flopper and over two-thirds of your party want someone that they feel really believes what they believe, this would certainly weak p you in states like iowa and other states that are true believers when they have to question whether you really believe what you're saying. >> it does. that tracks c

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. >> and, bob, how is this playing in the region, this quite sudden removal? i know the agreement was to pull them out, but there was meant to be a residual force. how is this playing out in the region? >> everybody knows that the administration was trying very hard to keep troops in. why? they're worried about stability in iraq, and they're worried about iranian influence. that's how this is going to be viewed in much of the region. they're worried about iran and american staying power. other countries are worried about it. unfortunately, it's going to be noticed that very shortly after we uncovered an iranian plot to commit a terrorist act on american soil, very soon thereafter, we announced our withdrawal from iraq. we can explain that any way we want. in the region, it's going to look like a retreat. >> well, let me go to the region and senator john mccain joins us from there. senator, thank you for being with us from amman, jordan. how do you read the withdrawal and the announcement that all forces, including a residual force, willen out by the end of thi

bob, how unusual is it for foreign government? if this is we believe this.n guard of iran outsourcing an assassination to a criminal drug enterprise, a drug cartel? >> it uses proxies to to make attacks. it could go on and on but they always use reliable proxies. i've never seen them go to drug cartels, sit down in a meeting like this, send money through new york. it is sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. this is not characteristic of the force at all. it makes me wonder if there isn't somebody is losing it in teheran. it is a terribly risky operation and has been said by the department of justice it is an act of war. how can we not respond this? what i can't figure out is why they left so many clues, fell in to the trap. it is not their modus operandi. >> thank you for your help tonight. let us know what you think. we are on facebook or follow me on twit wither. >>> herman cain's controversial comments on race and racism in america. and one week after republican new jersey governor chris christie said he won't run for president he announces which gop candidate he think

bob orr on how the plot was uncovered. evacuation at city college f san francisco --this is the mission campus. police say there's a report of a "suspicious package"... as a precaution, a building on valencia between 22nd and 2d is being cleared and rooms e being checked. we have a crn route and will have more ase get it. he is out of here. oakland police chief anthony batts s had enough. it's hardly beea secret that he and mayor qun don't see eye to eye. today he laid out his frustration. and robert lyles reports, bs wasn't alone. why did chief batts step dos oakland top cop? his first night out of the hospital in more than 6 mon. doctors transferred him fron francisco general today to a long- term rehabilitation center. they won't say where exactly. he still can't stap or walk, but the doctor said stow is able to move his boy and sit up on his own. "when bryan came here, he wn a comatose state. when he lt us today, he was able to sp, interact with his family, 's beginning to eat as well and he's making dramatic progre" s

bob orr on how the plot was uncovered. nns-n restrictions: -this story san francisco's mission district campus is forcing neighbors to shelter-in-place. one student says the evacuation was chaotic. "um, there was a police officer there, he just bum rushed us out of the class and said to evacuate. he didn't say why or anything so we just left." 600 students were evacuated. police bomb squads did find 2 suspicious packages on campus. one has been cleared. part of valencia street was closed for a time, but has now re-opened. first he was the front-runner. then he fell behind. now mitt romney is once again the party favorite for the republican presidential nomination. and that made him the prime target at tonight's g-o-p debate. but sharon chin reports, he may have an edge on the competition when this primary season rolls around. frontrunner mitt romney.. the main target.. as the eight a surprise endorsement of romney. a signal to the g-o-p.. especially the tea party members - to line up behind him, as the most logical candida

bob, how is the obama administration responding to this? >> reporter: good morning, chris.iran will be held accountable. already some sanctions have been put in place and the state department now is warning of possible attacks against americans here and and' broad. it's not clear who inside the iranian government allowed the alleged plot to kill the saudi by the way, to the u.s., jubeir. they say arbabsiar is of the quds. arbabsiar who appeared in court yesterday is expected to plea not guilty but prosecutors say they have plenty of evidence over several months. a dea hit man recorded conversations with arbabsiar in which he apparently laid out the potential plot. they make it clear that arbabsiar and conspirators planned to kill the ambassador with a bomb, maybe at a washington restaurant. >> bob orr, thank you very much. >>> joining us now is iranian america writer roya hakakian. do you believe this plot was approved by the highest level of government in iran? >> i can only point to the precedence in such cases and in those preprecedences, other cas that precede, they hav

bob ore on how the plot was uncovered. >> intended target was the saudi ambassador to the united statesel al-jubeir. attorney general, eric holder, unveiled the plot saying it was launched in iran last spring by officials inside a special operations unit of the iranian military. >> this was directed and approved by the iranian government. >> court papers alleged the officials conspired with an iranian american to plot the killing. arbabsiar traveled to mexico to hire a hitman. he made cover with an under cover informant. over six months, the informant recorded conversations and helped him solicit $100,000 from iranian contact adds a down payment. robert mow ire. >> these individuals had no regard for their intended victim. no record for innocent citizens that may have been hurt or killed. >> the spir tores discussed killing the ambassador and bob showed no concern over the potential deaths of innocent bystanders. they want that guy done. if the hundred go with him, expletive, adding the collateral deaths were no big deal. sources say bob, who was arrested nearly two weeks ago talked abo

if i call, i get fined. >> bob: this doesn't apply to you, i'm sorry. >> kimberly: how does he get coni have hair envy. >> bob: he has a history of concussions and it's a major problem in the national football league. i agree you can't, you know, we have guys using the cell phones to call their families or bookies or girlfriends or whatever. but in this case, i think there ought to be at least given some slack on this, because he had had a concussion and his wife was worried. >> kimberly: that baby. >> bob: they are worried about setting rules for their own image and they don't have enough rules to protect the people and players from the serious injury. >> kimberly: great point. >> bob: this is significant that the n.f.l. went out of their way to fine this guy and don't spend that much time on money focusing on concussion. dabs why don't they fine them when they have fights? >> bob: they do. they have that. you had two coach goes at it. two weeks ago, that made the news for a week. they didn't heat each other but it was loud and unpleasant. >> eric: what is the point? >> bob: coaches s

bob schieffer is our chief washington correspondent and anchor of "face the nation" and, bob, i wonder, how seriously should we take the cain campai campaign? >> i think it has to be taken very seriously at this point, scott, and here's why. think about this: mitt romney has been plodding along at about 25% in the polls and it's like he's been running most of his life. rick perry, the governor of texas, gets into the race, he zooms immediately to the top in the polls, has a couple of stumbles and goes back down. but then you take herman cain who has no real campaign staff, has not raised very much money, some people weren't even sure he was serious about this. he's gotten in, he makes a couple stumbles and he keeps going up. somehow or the other, herman cain is connecting with a big segment of republican voters right now and that's why he can no longer be ignored. >> pelley: but there's a long way to go. i wonder, you mentioned the campaign financing and lack of organization. does he have the legs for this race? >> well, we will find out, but so far so good for him. i mean, it's almost like

this is hard evidence to show the level of violence. >> dana: there has been rapes. >> bob: it's amazing how they are doing a great job themselves. they're drumming. drumming alone. >> bob: when the tea party was disrupting the town meetings -- >> kimberly: race and violent crime. no rapes. >> kimberly: it's a hard fact. that is a cheap shot. >> bob: you are in to it today. john edwards resurfaces for his day in court. we'll tell you about it next on "the five." i may not be. make you happy. ♪ ♪ ú(h cúcqhpbcdúg ♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to occupying "the five." back like a weird smell. former presidential candidate john edwards turned up in federal court to get the campaign finance charges against him dismissed. he was indicted on charges he took nearly $1 million from donors to cover up an affair he had with riyell while running for president in 2008. what do you think of this guy? >> bob: i thought she was with chris brown. >> kimberly: that was rhianna. >> bob: he took that money meant for campaign and used it clearly to cover up his own misdemeanors. this is the most ridiculous thing

this is hard evidence to show the level of violence. >> dana: there has been rapes. >> bob: it's amazing howo. they are doing a great job themselves. they're drumming. drumming alone. >> bob: when the tea party was disrupting the town meetings -- >> kimberly: race and violent crime. no rapes. >> kimberly: it's a hard fact. that is a cheap shot. >> bob: you are in to it today. john edwards resurfaces for his day in court. we'll tell you about it next on "the five." i may not be. make you happy. ♪ ♪ what's better than gold ? free gold ! we call that hertz gold plus rewards. you earn free days, free weeks and more fast. that's a plus. upgrade your ride. that's a plus. rewards with no blackout dates so you can redeem anytime. and it's easy to redeem your points online. already a gold member ? just select gold plus rewards in your profile and start rewarding yourself now. just go to hertzgoldplusrewards.com to join. hertz gold plus rewards. journey on. ♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to occupying "the five." back like a weird smell. former presidential candidate john edwards turned up in federal court

>> bob: does it bother you. 1% controls 40% of the wealth. >> eric: hold on. >> bob: i'm asking monica. >> eric: how it? >> bob: government come in and change the system. >> eric: you want government -- >> bob: exactly. >> monica: the government confiscating -- >> bob: so you think it's okay -- i'm going to ask you. are you okay with 1% controlling 40% of the wealth? >> greg: i'd love to control 40% of the wealth. i'm proud of that. >> kimberly: half the country not paying any tax whatsoever. so people who are making $250,000 and above are carrying this country. >> greg: i want to control the wealth. >> eric: this group complaining about the system. but the only way to fix it and bring down what is called the wealth gap is to create a situation with more socialist. more marxist. share and spread the wealth around. >> bob: why has it gotten better -- >> kimberly: can we go to break? >> greg: i want to ask kimberly a question. michael moore said he made a call for all police departments to join the protests. what would happen if that happened? >> kimberly: what is wrong with him. he is completely conf

bob: strengthen it where? >> kimberly: throughout the world. how about that? t. >> bob: we don't have solges but go ahead and do it. >> kimberly: he made a call to reject multilateral institutions like the u.n. taking precedent and operating things. i like that approach. >> bob: if romney called for the end of the u.n., good news. good for you, man. let me switch here for a second. marco rubio who i think ought to be anybody's candidate for vice president no matter who gets the nomination, said i don't want it. >> andrea: yeah, right. >> bob: does this surprise you? >> andrea: he wants it. >> bob: of course. >> andrea: everyone who is asked said yes do you know anyone asked that says no? >> greg: like at a friend's house for dinner, they ask if you want seconds, but you say no. finally they say c'mon, okay. that's what being a v.p. is. you wait until you're asked. >> kimberly: everybody wants him, too. he is playing hard to get now. what is the strategy here? >> eric: who does he help the most? >> bob: any of them. >> eric: i know everyone wants hispanic and fl

and much to poor bob mueller's chagrin, president bush or the vice-president would say to bob, "so, how are we doing on the anthrax case?" and you could see poor bob mueller's shoulder's slump. he's like, "we're working on it." >> months go by. the case doesn't get immediately resolved because this is a stone-cold whodunit, and so the pressure starts to mount from outside. >> narrator: then, a columnist at "the new york times" entered the fray. >> "i think i know who sent out the anthrax last fall. he is an american insider, a man working in the military bio- weapons field." >> narrator: nicholas kristof began to insist the fbi pursue a man he thought could be the killer, a scientist he called "mr. z." >> he started running column after column, referring to z in various euphemistic ways, but all of us who were on the story knew exactly who he was talking about. >> narrator: according to kristof and others in the media, dr. steven hatfill had access to anthrax when he worked at the army's lab in maryland. >> nick kristof is not small potatoes. he is a well-respected, pulitzer prize-winni

." >> pelley: bob, i wonder, how did officials take arbabsiar into custody? >> it's a great story. he was tricked into going mexico last month to allegedly meet with the hit squad. he was told, in fact, he'd be held as personal collateral until the murder contract could be paid in full but when he got to mexico the authorities were in on the sting so they shipped him to new york and the f.b.i. was waiting, scott. >> pelley: bob, thanks very much. after his arrest, arbabsiar was held in secret, that is until today when he was taken to federal court in lower manhattan. michelle miller is there. >> reporter: manssor arbabsiar, scott, was escorted into that courtroom by federal marshals, he was not wearing handcuffs. the walls of that courtroom were packed with d.e.a. and f.b.i. agents. he was wearing blue jeans, a blue dress shirt and a rather prominent scar on the left side of his face that ran from his lip to his ear. the only time he spoke to the judge was when he said "yes" when asked whether or not he qualified for a public defender. that court-appointed attorney spoke to him ver