since we talked about bob costa, one of the journalistic, this fits into the question here, are there key contemporary journalists that do exceptional work for the understanding joyce about it that you don't believea that you can name a bunch of people summary also to keep an eye on like you were a manager of a ballclub and that's a reporter that is going to mark. >> i have a lot of respect for the daily reporters the washington post, harness paper wall street journal and the network cnn really digs into stories dove into that we did the can't single out when he didn't single out bob costa because in 2016, where the newsroom and he said, you know, there is this guy donald trump running for president and we are not taking him seriously enough and he said, without ago interview him as a calling and so, we went and interviewed donald trump for 90 minutes and we decided were not going to ask him for the news of the day questions, were going to talk to him about the presidency and i got to titles out of that interview, he said, we asked him what is real power and he said, real power is i don't like to see it, fear. and then he said real power is fear and the second one