kahn and stephen strasburg. they'rand arnold schwarzenegger. >> eric: the left lost. nothing in this for them. >> bobxactly right. exactly right. nothing for us at all. >> andrea: doesn't that hurt ennewsiasm going into an election? >> bob: a good point but i'll tell you what it does. the fear of actually having republicans controlling the senate, the house and the white house, enough that the progressive base will come back en masse in big numbers because they don't want the tea terrorist party to have that much influence or be completely controlled by the republicans. >> andrea: they are so mad. this is up with of many columnists krugman from the far left, saying i mean lambasting the president saying he sur rendered, sur rendered last december. he surrendered on a scale of raw extortion, he says. >> bob: that's what it was. >> andrea: he says we are witnessing a catastrophe on multiple levels from paul krugman of the "new york times." there is it. raw, tortion over the debt ceiling. >> eric: if this does somehow work, the economy turns around not because of it but in spite of it, the tea party wil