one day he said, you know -- my brother worked for bob kennedy at one time. and he says, you know, there was -- he did not work in president kennedy's administration, but he worked for senator kennedy. both when he ran for the senate and then after. >> what's your brother's name? >> john. john o'brien. >> what did he do for the senator? >> a political aide. he worked in the '64 campaign. that's how he did it, and he was

joining me now is democratic strategist bob shrum who ran ted kennedy's campaign against romney in 1994 let me start with you. senator reid said he didn't know if this claim about romney's taxes was true. what's your take on the fact he was willing to put this into play at all? >> well, let me put this in context. romney is returning from the worst foreign trip of any presidential candidate since his father went to vietnam and came home and said he had been brainwashed. as i wrote in my column in the daily beast today he must have been sitting in that stadium saying, oh, to be in ohio now that the olympics are here. well, he's going to be back in ohio and will face these questions. and i think harry reid went out there and said what a lot of us are thinking and some of us have already said if you have been in a presidential campaign, you want to release those returns. you sit down and you look at them and the only reason you wouldn't release them is if there's something profoundly embarrassing in there. i think this is going to dog romney all the way through the fall. he's going to have

. >> greg: they volunteer and then they get hit on by a kennedy. >> bob: there are so many dogs men outre, single women find it hard to find good men to marry. particularly true in the african-american community. there is a decided distinction. not a large pool for women to go to for marriage. >> dana: bob is right. no, no no. he is right. this is true. >> bob: i'm just making a point. >> dana: in the atlantic, a long article i thought was fascinating about the choice now that women have more of a choice over the years about their security isn't necessarily tied to a mate, of whatever source the mate would be, that if you are going to make a decisio you tend to weed out people quickly if you take care of yourself. you look at the young people i know that still are not married. they would like to be. or in a committed relationship. hard to find. >> greg: basically the idea of julia is self-fulfilling privacy. we have a government to replace the man or partner in your life and no more partners. >> kimberly: how is that working out? >> bob: some men get lucky. eric, his wife is charitable.

bob: oh, please. >> kimberly: kennedy said whatever it takes. they don't care. >> bob: what will you do about the 30 million people without insurance? >> greg: all right, bob. >> kimberly: triple the middle class of taxes. >> greg: how many are u.s. citizens? all of them? are all of them? >> bob: i assume they're not all. >> greg: how many afford it but aren't getting it? how many are eligible? that number gets smaller and smaller. >> bob: if you take a young person who thinks they are invincible and they break their back and become quadriplegic for life, who pays for it? >> greg: you can pull out an isolated dints -- >> bob: i.d. happens al it happe time! >> dana: we were promised you can keep your doctor if you want to. not true. they said premiums will go down. that is not true. you cannot force everybody in the world -- or in america, to purchase product and expect the cost to go down. that won't happen. bob of course it. will -- >> bob: of course it will. if you have more supply -- more demand -- >> bob: that's the market. >> kimberly: held

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legislation by the late ted kennedy and bob doyle and others who have tried to change the standards ofmeat production and whdouinkenw are kp. s,er ofison t ainatou he been watching for that you are kind of hoping that congress will push through anytime soon in relation to this? >> as you know,the da ce, erstand it was voluntary, which in my humble opinion makes it useless. this stuff has to be regulated. antibiotics are kind of the prits. ingredient to lot of voargiha. 8, outlkabo ted kennedy's bill, but we also -- if you try to regulate use of tiniscoges capitol hill and the fda backed down. it made me sick. theyaid hat w an't rai al cs anddia ducks without it arrives. of course they can. but what they are saying is we won't give up these profits. you know, to me, that is a public health issue. ha y t nt activities, in new york they have ordered fda to continue the withdrawal of saru,ab use of economics and animals -- is this a move for a good direction for animals? >> i think it's fu. i don't fault the fda. they went up against antibiotic use i chickens and it took five or 10 yes for

and bob shrum worked for the kennedys.ennedys stood in the democratic party for an expanded view of americans' role and america's role in the world. the republican party is going to cripple itself beyond recognition if they don't quit being xen aphobes which is what they're doing. there's the huma abedin question and then the question about the republican party's identity. >> let me try to fine tune it. you first. bill clinton wanted the african-american vote. he wanted to get 98%. he took on sister soelga. he didn't like the lyrics. he was willing to separate himself from extreme talk and hold on to the constituency. isn't there a way romney, can't he be for the people who are concerned and worried and still say you have to draw the line on rights? >> he hasn't found it or hasn't looked for a way to do it. what i'm saying is that if you look at the republican party and you look at the demographics of the country in terms of hispanics, in terms of minorities, in muslims, so forth, the change in demographers and most americ

and bob shrum worked for the kennedys.tic party for an expanded view of americans' role and america's role in the world. the republican party is going to cripple itself beyond recognition if they don't quit. there's the huma abedin question and then there's a question about the republican party. >> let me fine tune this. you first and then bob. bill clinton won the african-american vote down the line. but he took on sister soldier. he didn't like the lyrics. he was willing to separate himself from extreme talk and still hold on to the constituency. isn't there a way that romney -- i'm not writing his case for him -- but can't he be for the people who are conservative and worried about the islamic threat and still draw the line here. >> i think there is a way but hasn't looked for a way to do it. what i'm saying is if you look at the republican party and look at the demographics of the country in terms of hispanics, minorities, muslims, and so forth. if you look for the changing demographics and most understand we're living

joining me now is bob shrum, a democratic strategist who ran ted kennedy's campaign against mitt romney in 1994. and alicia menendez. thanks to you both for being here tonight. and before we start, i want to give a big shoutout to the actors and actresses from our friends at political subverseties. they perform every saturday here in new york. bob, let me start with you. this was so brazen. billionaires, the koch brothers. now, bob, you've run a lot of campaigns. how will this play? >> oh, it's not going to play well at all. look, it was a spectacle that goes to a point that i'm going to make in my column in "the daily beast" tomorrow. he's a candidate by the rich for the rich who's indifferent and insensitive to the middle class. you know the guy you quoted there who said -- or that the improv guys quoted that said obama's a socialist? he's a bozo who runs a restaurant in the hamptons called the american hotel. i've eaten there. it's way overpriced. food's gone down hill. he ought to pay a price for this. maybe the democrats who live out there should eat somewhere else and get a better

kennedy. you could argue that al gore not selecting bob graham in florida when he was the most popular politicianed eliminate the controversy in the 2000 election. and the selection that john mccain made of picking sarah palin particularly after the financial crisis. we're really talking about three elections in modern history where this has probably made a very big deal in terms of the determining the election. and that's something mitt romney is also keeping in mind as he's thinking about his selection on this. >> karen, wes, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> up next, we'll follow rush limbaugh's batman conspiracy theory to its illogical conclusion. stay with us. ask me what it's like when my tempur-pedic moves. why not talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. goes up. goes up. ask me what it's like to get a massage anytime you want. goes down. goes down. [ are more satisfied than owners of any traditional mattress brand. ergonomics. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic. the mo

companies that will pay more in taxes as douglas kennedy explains from norfolk one business owner is fighting back. >> actually want us ... >> reporter: for 50 years, boben making radio parts for the federal government now the local government here in norfolk virginia, wants to take your property away, using emanant domain. >> we just feel it is not right they should be able to take this. it is not morally correct, not legally correct. >> reporter: not because they need a new school or a new park. in fact, the city only wants to take the factory away so it can be sold to a developer for retail space. now the motivation they say, is to spur economic development, we don't need economic development we have 100 employees, getting paid good wages able to buy homes. >> reporter: he is supporting a ballot measure to prohibit, private takings for private enterprise. critics say the law is too broad and will hurt community planning. >> all of this means there will be higher costs for acquiring land. >> reporter: jim campbell is from the virginia association of counties, he says the constitutional amendment will include valuing properties for lost profits which