the problem with the owners steve tish, bob kraft, incredible businessmen who con could ared the worldrything. they're afraid of a few, and afraid to do it. leland: you talk about kansas city and others who did take a stand against their players. why do you think more haven't? >> i think they're just terrified of public relations-wise. and again, it goes back to goodell. that's the guy who should be leading them and he stinks at anything to do with image or public relations and he's got to stand up to the players. leland: we know what the president thinks of roger goodell. he hasn't made that secret over the years. for some reason i don't think this issue is over, we can agree on that. >> thank the players for this, we love these issues, keep it up. leland: the president said that about a few things lately. good to see you, my friend. elizabeth: a story that perhaps is just beginning again. caught on camera, a stolen tractor and a wild driver leading police on a crazy chase in denver. fighting back on election meddling. we'll talk to a cyber security expert about what's being done to p