let's discuss it now with caylee macniny, bob beckel and bob kusack, editor and chief of "the hill." so kayleigh, your reaction to tavis smily and donald trump? >> my one question for mr. smily would be why do you call donald trump a racial arsonist? if you attack donald trump, he's going to attack you back. he's shown that to be the way he approaches things. but mr. smily said just two years ago, he made the absurd statement that this country, america, has contempt for the black man. that to me is being more of a racial arsonist. i ask the viewers now, is america, do we have contempt for the black man? i don't think so. right now, the national championship res happening. 80% of the men on the field are black men and the people love these men. if we want to call people racial arsonists, he should take an inward look at himself. >> bob, what do you think? does america have contempt for the black plan? certain segments, yes. the idea that racism is over in america is a silly notion. when a woman goes into a store, when a black guy walks down the street with a three piece suit on and yo