as we move closer to a cashless society, i want to go to bob lang, founder of explosiveoptio explosiveoptio explosiveoptions.net i want to get a better sense of what's happening with visa, mastercard, american express, and discover some of these are doing quite well others not so well but i think the theme is hard to deny, as total credit card debt just surpassed its previous record from right before the financial crisis that may not seem encouraging to some of you. but i think plastic has a long way to go before it hits a wall. just a couple of weeks ago, visa announced they're going the pay visa thousands of dollars to buy the technology they need to go cashless visa takes a small cut of every transaction made, a few thousand bucks is a small price to make to wean off of cash. as the economy expands, the more people qualify for credit. and if we can get some meaningful deregulation, banks could become more aggressive about getting consumers hooked on credit card debt. they partner with the banks, and they let the banks take on the credit risk. that's why we call them thin tech if washingt