but then it turned out that bob livingston, too, had been having extramarital affairs, and so he couldn't be the speaker for them either, not while they were still in the midst of impeaching president clinton for his affairs. and so livingston gets picked as speaker and then immediately has to resign. then what are they going to do? they've got other republicans in leadership. they could have picked one of their wild men at the time. dick armey on the right of your screen there, or tom delay on the left of your screen, they were both kind of fire breathers like newt gingrich had been. but after what newt gingrich had brought them to, after the bob livingston "i had affairs too" public relations catastrophe in the middle of what they were trying to do in the middle of the bill clinton impeachment weather all of that going on, with all of that turmoil in '98, after losing the midterms, middle of the impeachment, recognizing it's a political disaster, losing newt gingrich, picking bob livingston, losing bob livingston, not wanting delay, not wanting army, with all of that going on, facing th

bob livingston, newt gingrich. dick armey bill paxon, steve largent, saxby chambliss, john sununu, lindsey graham, tom coburn, susan molinari, john kasich, bill zellef, and i know i`ve missed some. >> guest: right. c-span: almost -- other than tom delay and a couple of others, the team that you started out with are gone. >> guest: well, you know, that happens in congress today. people used to say, well, you know, you go to congress, those people are there forever. the term limit -- you know, the term limit issue and all those things that we talked about -- you know, the average -- i don`t know what exactly the average term of a congressman, but it used to be for a long time. today, it`s probably eight years or ten years is the average time that a person stays here. and they cycle off and do something else. a lot of those folks that you mentioned are either in the senate or headed for the senate so i mean, they step up and do other things. saxby chambliss and lindsey graham, and coburn`s running for the senate, and

in my first job out of college i worked on capitol hill and it worked bob livingston of the first districtof louisiana and it was a starter job i've was assigned to make a presentation about some education money in the district that we worked in to the congresswoman from the second district of louisiana. so i went down and we made a very nice presentation. i'm not sure what happened with the outcome but i just want to make this point because what i remember most about being in the presence of a woman who really can't remember most being in the presence of lindy boggs who stood for something so special and he was a true capital bam fighting for equality and for the disadvantaged, cordial confidence and you could feel the history -- [applause] you could feel the history and her knowledge in the realm. and in a way she was picking taking up the mantle were so many of the women cokie writes about in her books left off in history. so it's in your lineage obviously to write these books and chronicled his history for all of us. cokie, you are a true capital dame. we also note -- [applause] we als

it played off for larry flynt when he got to claim the scalp of the next speaker of the house, bob livingston by outing bob livingston for his affair and claiming a scalp actually on the day that the house of representatives was voting to impeach president clinton for his affair. whatever you think of larry flynt and his life's work the man, frankly, puts on a good pageant when it comes to teaching everybody the meaning of the word hypocrisy. so it is one of those strange parts of the raging republican years from the mid 90s, right. afternoon newt gingrich and his republican revolution and their great political overreach against bill clinton, the republican impeachment of bill clinton and the backlash against that and republicans losing the mid-term elections in 1998 in the middle of the impeachment thing, historically unprecedented losses for republicans in those mid-term elections and then they pushed newt gingrich out and tried to clean up their mess but the first guy they picked to replace newt gingrich was laid low by the publisher of "hustler" magazine. and when bob liskvingston had to

john: you mentioned the bob livingston thing.ou did this in the past with him and you have tried to do it by making ads to have somebody come forward to talk about their sexual scandals. you have tried to hire investigators. i'm curious in 2016 if you plan to be involved in the campaign in that way -- looking into the lives of republicans. larry: no. 30 years ago, you could take a politician down with just a sexual affair. you cannot do that anymore. a politician from louisiana -- he got reelected to the senate and ran for governor of new orleans. there must be some kind of complicity and corruption in order to really be able to -- john: presumably, you think that is not the worst thing in the world, right? that had been so much controversy around sexual indiscretion. larry: there is hypocrisy around my company. i don't think there should be hypocrisy in politics. that is the reason why -- you got two mistresses while married. you'd think he's ward cleaver. he's not. john: the famous father on "leave it to beaver." you tried to d

back at the clinton impeachment drama and the personal scandals that enveloped newt gingrich bob livingstonnd hastert who the republicans turned to because they thought he was clean. it turns out he was not. we will see the history in a revisable lens. mark: when there is an indictment like this, people say they are shocked in politics. your hearing a lot of that today. we will see once more facts become known. john: the presidential candidates should form a band. mike huckabee on the bass and martin o'malley on the acoustic guitar. the ex-maryland governor is announcing this is how we let everybody know -- ♪ john: i give that performance a "b" for style. does martin o'malley have a chance of supplanting bernie sanders as the predominant hillary alternative? mark: i think he does. the problem he has is that sanders has outflanked him. he is turned out to be the hit p and cool candidate and the one most aggressively going after hillary clinton. he has turned out to be the liberal inheriting the elizabeth warren mantle. o'malley has his work cut out for him. john: we will have our joint scout

back at the clinton impeachment drama and the personal scandals that enveloped newt gingrich, bob livingstonnd dennis hastert who the republicans turned to to be speaker because they thought he was clean. it turns out he was not so clean. history through a revised lens. we've will see that -- we will see that history through a revised lens. mark: when there is an indictment like this, people say they are shocked in politics. your hearing a lot of that today. we will see once more facts become known. john: the presidential candidates should probably form a band. mike huckabee on the bass and martin o'malley on the acoustic guitar. we will add more later. the ex-maryland governor is announcing tomorrow morning in baltimore. this is how he let everyone know -- ♪ john: i give that performance a "b" for style and an "a" for substance. does martin o'malley have a chance of supplanting bernie sanders as the predominant clinton alternative? mark: i think he does. he is still not very well known. the problem he has is that sanders has outflanked him. sanders has turned out to be the hip and cool cand

bob livingston becomes the house speaker and resigns because of his extramarital affair. they can't decide who is the house speaker. so it's dennis hastert because he's squeaky clean. and then all this time he had a skeleton in the closet. >> he was not approached by this individual a until 2010. the truth of the matter he might have thought that he had gotten away with this. obviously this was behavior he had engaged in when he was a wrestling coach and teacher, and just like other people who had been accused of this kind of behavior. jerry sandusky and others who have done this kind of abuse often sometimes they think they're going get off scott free. often they don't think they're going to get in trouble. he thought it was off scott free. >> there was a scandal involving scott foley who blamed dennis hastert of not doing enough, and that involves mark foley doing things with pages and hastert knew about it and tried to ignore t and then it came out and then there is this air of corruption hanging over hastert and foley that cost them. how does that scandal look now? >>

dennis was brought in as speaker after bob livingston and newt gingrich both had ethics problems. >> i think everybody is very surprised by this because he was considered a very straight shooter, a boy scout, somebody who was above suspicious. he was investigated during the time he was speaker. several members of congress were looked at for potential financial issues. clearly the government has gone to great lengths to prevent disclosure of who this western is and what the conduct was. the indictment does not say -- it simply describes it as past misconduct. it doesn't say it was criminal conduct. doesn't mean it was or wasn't. if it happened when he was a teacher in the late 60s and 1970s that whatever it was is not anything the government can prosecute now. that's a bit of a mystery. he has resigned from the lobby firm where he was working. we know that his bail has been set. we believe he will make his first court appearance next week in chicago. it would seem the government is going to great lengths to not disclose what this is about. >> chuck todd is moderator of meet the press

in the history of the house to be reprimanded and punished for ethics violations, succeeded by bob livingstonknowledge and background, how he could have done it with the record the scrutiny out there, it must have been an incredibly difficult or -- i don't know what -- self-delusional time for him. >> woodruff: there's so much we don't know, david. >> yeah first the allegations about the contact with the boys are true, well we've seen that with the catholic church. we've seen a disturbing undercurrent in american life. >> ifill: guess maybe in world life of this sort of thing. i am struck as much as is mentioned the whole litany of people, especially that era involved in the scandal, whether sexual, some was more financial like tom delay's and speaker wright. it's concentrated. a lot of people all at once. does politics track attract such people, prevalent in society? we're certainly remind of original sin. i wanted to say there are people in american life to whom this has not happened. i might say with president obama, but president obama has run an amazingly scandal-free administration, not

dennis hastert became speaker of the house because of scandal that impacted gingrich bob livingston, both in some ways associated with sex scandals. was there a whiff of this? >> not a whiff. behind closed doors and a lot of things happen behind closed doors, denny hastert never got close to the line. he would bring the conversation back. at least as he conducted himself in office he appeared to be a pillar of integrity. >> explain how shocked you are. >> you could have knocked me over with a feather. and other members who served on staff are shocked. no clue to this. >> i'm thinking about the impact this has on the image congress has which is poor with the public. kevin tibbles talked with folks. i wanted to play this one remarks from a yorkville resident at dennis hastert's hometown. this gets to the core. >> it's the norm with politicians running wild with sex scandals money scandals, you know, just basic thievery overall. >> people say the whole place is full of crooks and creeps and i say no it's just a few bad apples. now it's hard to say that. >> everything i can tell, that's

because he really was about the last person and keep in mind he got picked as speaker because bob livingston was supposed to be next in line after gingrich was forced to step down, it was found out he had an affair and because they were impeaching president clinton at the time they had to do it it -- it's really just so stunning. >> and it was a long series involving jim wright as well forced out as speaker. >> yes. >> let's look at a little item here, i don't know how you describe, it better not give a description because i don't know, somebody who called up c-span when denny hastert was on last year in 2014 2014 who made this comment, just read it for yourself and what you think of it. >> illinois is our next call. here's bruce, independent line. hi. >> hello, deny. >> hey, how are you doing? >> pretty good. remember me from yorkville? >> bruce, you're on. go ahead. >> john stanton, what do you make naff? >> i don't know if it's related to this case or not, but certainly in the context of the indictment it does have to rays some questions. i mean at a minimum it's one of the creepier thing

the person set to replace him as speaker bob livingston admitted to an extramarital affair. >> he was the affable, easy-to-get-along guy. this has shocked democrats, republicans, lobbyists, everybody in town. >> he took a path well known to politicians and became a lobbyist. yesterday he resigned from his firm and last night his bio was gone from his company website. vinita? >> jan thank you. >>> pilots say their planes were targeted by lasers. they saw it as they flew over bethpage state park on long island. the planes landed safely and there were no injuries. >>> the soccer's gofrmgverning body remains defiant. they ee electing a new pretty. sepp blatter says he can restore trust if he is re-elected. charlie d'agata is in london with more. good morning. >> good morning. you just saw it briefly but this is one of our favorite headlines this morning. despite the backlash sepp blatter refused to step down and he's still the favorite for the election. they don't call him the great survivor for nothing. as delegates arrive for the vote some refuse to be drawn where their loyalties align.

. >> newt gingrich was the powerful speaker of the house and then he was gone re34r5ised by bob livingston. now he's gone the results of extramarital affairs. and he will likely be replaced by who? >> reporter: dennis hastert's profile is so low that even after six terms in congress most americans even many in washington have no idea who he is. but republicans say that former wrestling coach is just who they need to rally their team. >> i didn't really seek this at all. it just kind of happened. we need to heal the wounds and reach out across the aisle. >> reporter: allies say he's a fixer who can talk to democrats and heal house republicans now rocked with internal strive. >> the members wanted someone that they know was solid, a man with integrity, no personal problems, but also could lead this team with a very narrow majority. >> gosh. okay. >> that's something. >> we'll see what happens. i think the next step will be the revelation of who this individual is if we ever find out, probably will. >> and what happened. let's move on now to the ever growing republican field for 2016. sitting

the man set to replace him as speaker, bob livingston, admit admitted to an extra marital affair. >> he was the affable easy to get along guy. this is shocking with democrats, republicans, lobbyists, consultants, everybody. it's rocked this town. >> reporter: after hastert left office, he took a path well known to washington politicians and became a lobbyist. yesterday he resigned from his firm and last night his bio was gone from his company web site v.a. nita? >> jan, thank you. >>> airline pilots in new york say their planes were targeted by lasers. at least four airliners reported seeing a laser last night as they threw over bethpage state park on long island. new york state park police went to the scene. the planes all landed safely and there were no injuries. >> reporter: the embattled president of soccer's governing body remains defiant. he's asking for help cleaning up massive corruption inside fifa. 209 member nations are meeting in switzerland to elect a new president. sepp blatter says he can restore trust if he is reelected. charlie d'agata is in london. charlie, good mor

you think back to 1998 when he becomes the speaker, bob livingston is supposed to be the next speaker, he steps down hastert comes down. for all those years, this was there, this was in his past. he knew about this. apparently this individual this -- not until 2010 where he strikes this deal. >> he knew he met a bit of money after he left as the speaker. what's most fascinating, at this point to me we know the conjectture of what he did. i want to know has individual a been indicted secretly or otherwise or will he be. if not, why won't he be. he was extorting somebody. i don't care if you were sexually abused as a kid. it's a terrible thing, but extorz is terrible >> what do we know about that? this is -- it's such a confusing in a way indictment, from the very beginning with this cryptic thing about individual a and yorkville in the 60's and 70's. we have leaks, we're not sure where they're coming from. we can suspect. what do we know about the other person here the individual a? >> individual a has not been publicly identified. people sue all the time to get damages for alleged wro

he came in after gingrich after bob livingston had to step down before he even became speaker because of accusations of adultery. this is not only personally shaking to people in the republican establishment and washington establishment, it has a sense of a trap door in which case it could get much worse. >> you don't need to speculate, margaret, just to take one step back. he lied to the fbi according to the indictment. that's it in terms of saying if this is fair or not to dennis hastert. if the indictment is provable you don't need to know anymore. >> resigned from his lobbying firm last night. >> the rest is political intrigue. however, what is fueling intrigue and it's not we're introducing new ground here is that at times material to this indictment point one the first thing they quote is from approximately 1965 to 1981 defendant john dennis hastert was a high school teacher in illinois. why would they put that in? >> the reason they say he put that in he was a high school teacher and wrestling coach is because the individual to whom he was paying money he supposedly knew from t

republican losses in 1998 and the backlash against the impeachment of bill clinton and then when bob livingstone because of his own allegations of sexual misconduct. hastert seemed to be smoothing the waters and for the story to end, for his story to end with these revelations is an extraordinarily revessel of fate. >> let me follow up with you here because hastert was instrumental instrumental in passing the patriot act and it was the provision of that act that actually tightened restrictions on the cash withdrawals which, in the end, helped the feds build the case against him. how ironic is that? >> yeah that's just adding more irony. we think of hastert as very much of a low-key speaker. initially thought of as the public face and the real power was tom delay who later ran into legal troubles of his own that were subsequently reversed. hastert turned out to be a forceful voice on the security issues and still a name used all the time in washington because of the hastert rule something informal that became formal under him where he said he would not bring a bill to the floor unless it has maj