we'll interview bob lucey, washoe county commissioner, newly minted, been on the board about a year. tell me the difference between what it was like running for the office and being in office? >> i got to tell you, sam, it's been a huge experience in the way i've just difference that i thought going into it, i thought i would be impactful on all the change and i really have bring outside from my private business life in the public sector and impact, i think it was that kind of airgant, novice way of looking at things. now i get in there and spent the laf year working on it, i've seen so much more that goes on, complexity and how dynamic the job has to be. >> so for example, give us >> for example, you know, for me specifically, i'm -- i was very fortunate this last july to be elected as chairman of the rcva with new after legislature we board. we went from 13 members down to nine. we had multitude of different issues going on. >> folks in southern nevada, the conventional -- >> reno-sparks convention and visitor authority. different issues at the convention and visitor's authority. w