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i just had bob lutz, the former viet chairman of general motors on the show and he was harshly criticalthe executives who agreed to the union contract because he said everybody caved to the moment of flush economic circumstances and we all thought we were too rich. so wasn't that over -- that exuberance to use alan greenspan's phrase, wasn't everybody responsible for that? and in fact in the steel sector, the steel workers contributed to the return of steel to the united states by making significant capital contributions and wage concessions. >> they have done a wonderful job of the steel workers making that more cooperative with the mills and existing u.s. steel i will acknowledge. certainly the open door policy practiced in the steel industry in the '60s and '70s contributed to its decline. similarly, they're much like politicians, they're elected by boards. and basically look for short-term solutions, much like we're seeing with our budget deal. >> sandy, let me go back to you. the uaw was integral, many people would say and i think it's accurate, to the return of the auto sector to