bring back in former gm executive bob lutz and ivan fineset who was just out at tesla, as a matter of, are we or are we not at peak auto sales? >> i describe it more as a plateau. and this time we have a kind of a differentiated market. the main battle for market share that he was talking about interestingly enough this time is among the german luxury brands who are -- primarily, primarily focused in cars and that's not where the big demand is. you know, bmw has had oversupply problems. three german luxury makes are in a constant battle of number one luxury seller in the united states. and that kind of competition is never good for luxury brands. but if you get to the -- look at the real market, the real market is now over 50% trucks, crossovers and sport utilities of all sizes and of course that's where the three american companies are particularly strong. >> bob, hold on. there's a school of thought in ten years, five years, 20 years that all the car makers are screwed for lack of a better term because we'll be in self driving pods. will that doom the auto industry? >> yeah. ultimat