i like john kyl, and i am pleased with bob macdonald. i am pleased that he is talking about free enterprise and the american dream. those would be the people that come to mind. >> which economists do you respect the most? >> the greatest economist, the one for whom i have the most respect is robert mandell. he is a professor at columbia and he won the nobel prize in 1999. he is the father of supply-side economics and he also has a magnificent castle in italy with his wife, valerie and their young son. every year, and i believe he has done this since 1971, he has a fantastic gathering of economists asking how we can ever get back to a stable, international monetary system and he has people like paul volcker in attendance and i have met many bankers and leaders of government there. he is involved, still, in the future of the monasteries -- the international monetary system. he is very interested in china these days. he supplied the intellectual groundwork for the creation of the euro. he now thinks we can have some kind of linkage between

bob macdonald reached over, not by moderating his principles, but by saying that his principles were not only good for saying, no. he says he wants to grow the economy, but he just wants us to do it, not washington. there is a positive, republican agenda out there. we will see more of that in 2010. >> when i first opted to propose the question, this was slightly more off-base. i want to bring up the idea. i came down here from boston, where republican was a dirty word. not because of the belief system but the reputation. my question is how much opinion is placed in the word, republican or democrat. and how much is in the ideology. how much will this affect things over the last year? how much has that changed? >> it is an interesting attachment to the word republican, as there is to the word liberal. both of them have baggage right now. by a majority of two to one, people consider themselves republicans over liberal. the job will be to reattach conservative to the sound of democrat. >> there is a certain simplicity to the belief and he is so persuasive by almost all for this. there is

bob macdonald, shoots a conservative fellow reached across the middle. and- -- a very conservative fellow reached across the middle. i want you to have the choices, not washington. there is a positive republican agenda out there. i think you are going to see more of it in 2010. >> when i propose the question i thought it would be more off base. i wanted to bring up the idea, i came down here from boston corp. the republican was a dirty word -- i came down here from boston where is the republican was a dirty word. how much of the voters' opinion is placed in the word republican or democrat and how much is an ideological ideas? to cut that is a great question. -- >> that is a great question. there are interesting attachments to the word republican and liberal. both have baggage right now. people consider themselves conservative over a liberal. as part of the republican job in the next cycle to be reattaching the word conservative to republican. the go there is simplicity to the argument -- >> there is simplicity to the argument. there is a social dimension

. >> what lesson do you thought of bob macdonald's victory? beside a big shift among independents. do you need to run to the center to be successful republican? >> guest: yes that are two ways of doing that. the lessons of the past election, the democrats are in this wonderful place where when you ask why they're going to win in 2010, because the republicans are a mess, they are divided and eating their own, i have told that story. usually when you tell that story, that is a bad place. the republicans are very unified at this point. we are unified, fiscal issues, a big umbrella. you saw it in congress when voted against the stimulus and in places like florida where the fellow out of the mainstream is one guy who happens to be the governor. every other republican in the state doesn't understand why we voted -- why the governor was part of the huge stimulus. the republican party is incredibly unified in places where there is weird geometry and the conservative party and all that. those are not the issues that are dominating the electorate and probably won't be going into the next ele

bob macdonald reached over, not by moderating his principles, but by saying that his principles were not only good for saying, no. he says he wants to grow the economy, but he just wants us to do it, not washington. there is a positive, republican agenda out there. we will see more of that in 2010. >> when i first opted to propose the question, this was slightly more off-base. i want to bring up the idea. i came down here from boston, where republican was a dirty word. not because of the belief system but the reputation. my question is how much opinion is placed in the word, republican or democrat. and how much is in the ideology. how much will this affect things over the last year? how much has that changed? >> it is an interesting attachment to the word republican, as there is to the word liberal. both of them have baggage right now. by a majority of two to one, people consider themselves republicans over liberal. the job will be to reattach conservative to the sound of democrat. >> there is a certain simplicity to the belief and he is so persuasive by almost all for this. there is