why is virginia governor bob macdonald going to jail? the same not happening to new jersey senator bob menendez? remember the fuss about dick cheney, and halliburton? why do the old rules apply to hillary clinton? rules don't apply to the clintons. >> i never defend hillary clinton but do it for one second. there is a difference between what bob macdonald did where his family got favors from lobbyists versus money going to the foundation. melissa: hang on a minute. the kingdom of saudi arabia giving millions of dollars into the foundation. >> yeah. melissa: last year the clintons $9 million in travel expenses. flying in private planes and traveling in style. >> of course. melissa: how is that different? money went into the foundation, directly went to their luxury travel? >> i think that is a very fair point. there is kind of direct, indebt benefit that the clintons are getting from these foreign contributions. my point is -- melissa: i don't think that is indirect. that's direct. >> maybe it is a little bit of a bank shot but the real po