so bob matthews was committed to fight to the end. e we. >> they were staying in two different houses. the houses were approached. people in one house all surrendered. when they approached matthews' house, he was given an opportunity to surrender, refused to do so. >> come out with your hands up. >> we did everything we could to try to get him out of there. and when we decided that bob wouldn't come out, we made a plan to do in and get him. >> dozens of fbi agents armed with automatic weapons and dressed in full combat fatigues have been bussed to the scene. >> bob was upstairs and he had multiple weapons and lots of ammunition. so we moved in, and we used sound grenades and blew the glass out and then i heard the gunfire. he began to shoot indiscriminately through the building. i remember i was standing by the window with a weapon, and somebody yells from the woodline, look out, he's in the window above you. i crouched down and i looked up and i realized the bullets came out over my head and hit the ground next to me, but we couldn't

. >> you've got bob oden kirk, matthew reese, liev schreiber. my tv son, sterling k. brown. and then there's me. >> jimmy: you. yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> i finally made it -- thank you. i finally made it to the bottom of the top list. >> jimmy: well, don't say that. that's a good group to be in. >> thank you. >> jimmy: did you stay up early to watch the nominations? were you nervous about it, thinking about it? >> i wasn't nervous so much as i had a busy day, a busy morning. so i got out of my house, they start the announcements like 8:30 in the morning. i got out of my house at 8:25. i threw some headphones on to cancel out some noise, and as i was on the freeway my phone starts ringing. and i'm like it's probably my friend russ saying it didn't happen, i got kicked in the teeth. >> is russ the one that would break it to you? >> he is. he's one of my closest friends and my producing partner. he's always the one that's like buddy, it didn't happen. i'm sorry, it di >> jimmy: you look at the phone and it's like oh, it's russ. [ laughter ] >> no, he gives good news too.

we don't rereal that publicly, but bob mueller understands and i understand the specific scope of the investigation. so, no, it's not a fishing expedition. >> so matthew, what's your reaction to that, and how does that, how is that interpreted now by the white house? >> well, my understanding of the scope is that it is limited. this is one of the discussions i've been having with lots of people. in fact, in writing an editorial pieces that should be up on cnn.com soon about, that there is a red line. there is a very specific scope to this investigation, and anything that is outside of russian coordination or the 2016 campaign would be outside of the scope of that investigation. i think rod rosenstein, who i served with in the department of justice agreed with me. >> where did you learn that? who determined that? even senator collins was asked that and heard her sentiments friday. there are no limitations. they can go wherever they need to go? >> yeah. that's just not what i heard rod say today as i watched his interview on fox news. i heard him say there are specific subjects in the investigation and there is a scope. it cannot be a fishing expedition

matthew, you say there's a different. it's important to draw a distinction, a line if you will, between special counsel bob mueller and ken star. folks talk about them one in the same. why is it wrong? >> i noticed a lot of pushback from folks in response to my piece on cnn.com from yesterday where they say ken star, you know, in your analysis exceeded his authority and the independent -- >> started with a land deal gone bad and ended up with monica lewinsky. >> yeah. ken star went back and sought, expanded jurisdiction as michael's describing, so he could go after other things unrelated to the initial investigation, which was the white water land deal. so, i think there are key distinctions there. listen, i -- you know, i'm not certain, i have to take the cnn reporting they are looking at unrelated financial crimes as true. that gives me concern. as a former prosecutor and somebody that sent cases, i understand following the money. at the same time, we cannot go on fishing expeditions casting a broad net looking for crimes unrelated to the purpose of the investigation, which is russian coordination with the trump campaig

bob mueller is investigating, this isn't that complicated. a lot of the scandal is hiding in plain sight. >> jack, matthew is right.roaring back, in part because of actions or omissions by the president and his team. so let me ask you this. since the russia news this week was mostly this manafort raid, what does it tell you about the mueller investigation, even though it was several weeks back now? >> well, the execution of a search warrant in a business crime context is unusual. it is designed to send a message, often to the subject or the target that the prosecutor is serious, in a situation like this where there are concurrent congressional investigations. it may also be a message that the prosecutors are not going to rely on or wait upon the congressional investigations. >> matthew, i want to read you a quote. this is from the daily beast on the subject of blame. headline team trump shivs paul manafort. >> why did that suddenly appear in print, matt? >> i don't know. but it's a very dangerous game that those aides to the president are playing. it's clear what bob mueller is doing here. the key to cracking open

matthews in washington. if you ever wonder why donald trump is afraid of special prosecutor bob mueller, listen to this. mueller just added a 16th lawyer to his investigation into the trump campaign's possible collusion with russia last year. according to reuters, it is a former justice department prosecutor. greg andrus was deputy assistant attorney general where he oversaw the fraud unit and managed the program targeted illegal foreign bribery. meanwhile, the white house continues to face questions over shifting statements about donald trump junior and jared kushner's meeting last sum we are a kremlin linked lawyer. back in march, he said he had no meetings with russians where he was representing the campaign in any way. then we found bout that june 26th meeting in trump tower with a story breaking, he put out a statement saying we primary discussed a program with the adoption of russian children. left out the purpose of the meeting from trump's perspective was all about collecting damaging information about hillary clinton. it was what got the trump family in that room in the first place. within a da

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matthew, i want to thank all of you. and i want to bring in nbc military analyst, major general bob scales who wrote the bob scales on war. the future of america's military at risk. it's good to see you. and. >> hi, chris. >> been a huge advocate of watch what they do, not what they say. >> right. >> because we have been focused very much on what these two men have been saying and obviously in particular the rhetoric that we have not heard from a u.s. president before, certainly not with the regulator we've heard it over the last several days from president trump. so what do you see that tells you where we could be heading next? >> well, right now i see very, very little action in the theater, both on the north side and on the south side, chris. for instance, there's no evidence that the north koreans have started to move into any of their forward positions. there's no evidence that they are going to conduct any civilian drills in pyongyang, which is another early indicator. on the south side, there's no evidence that the south korean army has gone to a higher deaf con. there's no evidence that the u.s. command there is

matthew miller and former chief spokesman and back with me geoff bennett and erica horner. you heard her talk about cobb the president's in-house lawyer is saying nice things about bob mueller. what do you make of this shift in strategy here from the president's legal team? >> i think there's someone on the president's legal team which is an experienced criminal attorney. if you look at sekulo. this is what he does for his career when he's not working at the white house. it's in his client's interest to cooperate with bob mueller and appear to be cooperating. something reported by "new york times" on friday. the white house had been asked by bob mueller to turn over documents related to flynn. he asked him to cooperate and they did. if bob mueller thinks that the white house isn't cooperating, he won't ask next time. he'll send a subpoena and that looks much worse for the president. >> so, this is a strategic move for the white house, you believe. the issue, of course, as kristen points out, the president is not on that page. >> the president is not on that page. we are always one tweet, one interview and one comment away from it shifting dramatically. cobb knows how the wh