>> bob maynard, the former owner and operator of the oakland tribune, one of the cofounders, he talkedbout that the faultlines, we don't need to agree -- i do think we need to agree on a shared set of facts, i do think we are living in a place where this notion of alternative facts has emerged, but there are many official sources that can be utilized. i think what concerns me now is that we have got into a place in our society where two plus two does not equal four. we are not agreeing on these very basic things, and that makes it more challenging. but i don't think we need to have two always agree in order to address issues and challenges. because the reality is that we are not. but i think the fear i have now, it's just the fact that there are disagreements on things that used to be agreed upon in terms of basic facts from which to have a conversation. kristen: martin reynolds, i realize this is a long conversation that can certainly take a whole half-hour. perhaps we will have to chat another day. appreciate you coming on today. >> appreciate you having me. kristen: public safety's