>> whitaker: bob mcdonnell ran for office on a campaign of faith and family values. but when the scandal broke, apparently so did the mcdonnells. the alleged husband and wife conspirators started coming to court separately. >> mcdonnell: this was my parish. >> whitaker: and bob mcdonnell moved here, into the rectory of his church. you were in church yesterday. and you were telling me you were a moral man. >> mcdonnell: i try to be, bill. >> whitaker: did this meet your moral code? >> mcdonnell: if i do it over again, i was governor, i wouldn't take any gifts. i didn't need them. >> whitaker: so, why did you take them? >> mcdonnell: you know, having a family vacation after working 15 hours a day, at a nice lake resort with my family, you know, i appreciated that. >> whitaker: but you're a public official. >> mcdonnell: yes. >> whitaker: you think the public believes that you should reach a higher standard? >> mcdonnell: i knew in my heart i was governing myself properly. and i knew i was making all the appropriate disclosures. >> whitaker: virginia law didn't require d

so, remember bob mcdonnell, governor of virginia, was convicted of corruption?t was overturned because they couldn't establish, "you give me this, and then here's what i'll do for you." so that'll be the key to look for. it's not just what the politician received, it's what they did in return for that gift. >> i agree with that, and, in fact, that was the driving force behind the bob mcdonnell appeal to the supreme court, in which the supreme court came down on the side of -- that there was no improper behavior. so that has to be proved. and they've done a fairly extensive investigation, so we'll see. >> but you also have, out of this reading and allentown situation, i guess, 11 guilty pleas so far in terms of things. i don't think they're as sophisticated perhaps. you know, that's kind of our farm team, like the reading phillies are for the philadelphia phillies. >> [ laughs ] >> absolutely. allentown's our third-largest city in the state, but, still... >> yeah, but it's the farm-team system, i guess, and they got to the level of sophistication to not cross tha