[laughter] i said, gentlemen, bob mcguire, new police commissioner. he says, mayor, isn't this just part of the old irish mafia? [laughter] i turned to bob, and i put my arm on his shoulder, and i said, bob, you told me you were jewish. laugh. [laughter] he turns, puts his arm on my shoulder, he says, no, mayor, i didn't say that, i told you i looked jewish. [laughter] end of story. >> of course, when i was writing the book, i said to ed, did you know that your second police commissioner, benjamin ward, who was the first african-american police commissioner grew up speaking yiddish, and he said, no. >> well, he had a bad accent. [laughter] >> anyway, the problem, but the problem is as you said, you took the heat. but when you, when you fix, when you fix the pavement on park avenue, you don't fix the pavement on 126th street -- >> because you don't have the money. >> -- because you don't have the money, and you don't have the money year after year, people start to get angry. >> sure. >> and it starts to make you -- and it becomes a racially-divisive is