he's in court again, and he's not giving up bob mclean. welcome to the shell. good beer, john. bob, you and i have known each other for more than a decade. i met you through one of washington's whistleblower groups while i was going through my own travails after blowing the whistle on the cia torture program . i still remember our 1st meeting. i was depressed and distraught and you were up beat and ready for a fight. you're still fighting a 10 years later, you began your career at t. s a. as a federal air marshal. and you took your job very seriously. tell us how this whole odyssey got started for you in the 1st place. well, after i left the air force, i became a ward patrol agent. and 6 years later, i was so hired by the federal aviation administration to be in the 1st class, close $911.00 special agents. and a few weeks afterwards, we turned in to the t essay. and they made us all federal air marshals. and that's how it started you were, you are only on the job for about 18 months when you heard of a proposed t. s a plan to take federal air marshals off of long distance non st

ah, today we're talking with t s a whistleblower robert mclean. bob is both typical and a typical of many national security whistleblowers. he's typical in the respect that he saw evidence of waste fraud abuse or illegality. and he said something about it without any regard for what it would do to his career. he blew the whistle because it was the right thing to do. he paid a very heavy price for it, which will tell you about in a moment. but he's a typical in that he has proven time and time again that he's literally not afraid of anybody. he's taken on his immediate bosses and he's taken on senior u. s. government officials all the way up to the secretary of homeland security. he has had a list attorney's defending him and he's to.

robert mclean. bob is both typical and a typical of many national security whistleblowers. he's typical in the respect that he saw evidence of waste fraud abuse or illegality. and he said something about it without any regard for what it would do to his career. he blew the whistle because it was the right thing to do. he paid a very heavy price for it, which will tell you about in a moment. but he's a typical in that he has proven time and time again that he's literally not.

ah, today we're talking with tia se whistleblower robert mclean. bob is both typical and a typical of many national security whistleblowers. he's typical in the respect that he saw evidence of waste fraud abuse or illegality. and he said something about it without any regard for what it would do to his career. he blew the whistle because it was the right thing to do. he paid a very heavy price for it, which will tell you about in a moment. but he's a typical in that he has proven time and time again that he's literally not afraid of anybody. he's taken on his immediate bosses and he's taken on senior u. s. government officials all the way up to the secretary of homeland security. he has had a list attorney's, defending him, and he's defended himself not just in the federal district court, but at the appellate level and all the way up to the supreme court of the united states. more than once, the department of homeland security couldn't silence him and when they tried, he sued and when they were forced to.