he didn't show it to bob mcnamara and bob mcnamara called from the library and it has been declassified. he was screaming from the other room why didn't i see this memo? they concluded that it was the six so he didn't see it. and it would not have made a difference if he had seen it. >> the memo concluded the united states position in the world would not be affected if it lost the war. that was a very important point. there were other things in the memo that were not quite right. it was an interesting memo. was really written before they could know what was going on. we could take one more question. >> any advice for the new cia director? >> i do have. i always have an opinion. he should learn to be quiet. if you remember -- i hope you will send the frame back to the pentagon, if you remember, after the osama bin laden capture, he came out of the white house, you remember that? you were probably third. i hope you will be more circumspect. in every part of the agency, he knows it well but i am hoping. my personal opinion is our hope he will send a drone's back to the pentagon and i hope

he stayed behind and handed it to president johnson but bob mcnamara called us and said it was declassified. i could hear him screaming why did i not see the memo? they concluded it was after johnson had seen at that it would not make a great deal of difference. >> unit is states position would not be adversely affected and that was an important point* son was fresh and it was interesting memo. we could probably take one more question. >> and a word of advice to the new cia director? [laughter] >> guest: i always have an opinion. he should learn to be quiet. sending the planes back to the pentagon if you remember after a summit in nodding capture he can add a the warehouse to gave a long spiel i am hoping he can be more circumspect but he knows the agency well but i hope my a personal opinion is seasons the drone's back in the agency goes back to true intelligence. this is what dick believed so completely with human intelligence you can fly to see how many planes but he cannot tell you what is in the leaders brain or mind and you need human intelligence for that's. i think they should go ba

. >> bob: hawaiian garrett mcnamara set a record in 2007. watch this.nbelievable. but if you think that is unbelievable look at what he did this year. this is still waiting for the "guinness book of world records" but it looks like it's 100-foot wave. this guy has guts. i mean, i can't believe -- he is 45 years old from massachusetts. been in hawaii for a long time. started at 11 years old. >> dana: are you sure it's guts? >> kimberly: dana perino livingston edge. >> greg: you are filthy. >> dana: yep. if you let me happen. >> kimberly: husbands, if you are having less sex than normal, do you want to know why? >> bob: yeah. >> dana: why? >> kimberly: because you're doing too many chores around the house. if you're getting the honey-do list and it says vacuum, say no baby, give me my lawnmower. that way you have a happy life and go to work with a big smile on your face. there is a study here, guys need to get the man on and not do traditionally female chores. >> dana: what man came up with this study? >> kimberly: this is a guy obviously that is pushing

mcnamara. almost certainly we would not have had or in the way we had the iraq war without defense secretary rumsfeld. so this is a big deal. >> and, bob, you write about that, that obama has found a soulmate on the issue of war. so with hagel as defense secretary, even though he served certainly during vietnam, a republican, what does it mean for american engagement in the world in the next four years? >> that it's going to be done in a much more careful way. clearly in my research on the first book i did on obama in talking with the president about the war in afghanistan, he, like hagel, has an aversion to war. he'll go to war, but in obama's famous nobel prize acceptance speech he made it very clear that war may be necessary, but it's always a manifestation of human folly. >> and the secretary of state john kerry has said they need to get the economic house in order as a first priority for national security. but look at syria and look at iran. where does the secretary -- the secretary of defense nominee and the president stand on iran? >> well, they're going -- you know, the policy is to prevent iran from getting the bomb. that is t