king is like moses, the lawgiver, follow me, standing on top of the mountain, bob moses is the anti moses, quiet and mystical and a grass-roots person, we need what the leaders and i want to follow you but i want to go to the court house even if it is going to get beaten and arrested and jailed. there are different models of leadership. one thing is on its face, young people today need to know that people their age were leaders in serious problems in the 1960s but the race issue was so great that most adults in that period had opposed that they had and under the control ability, and people were flummoxed by what to do. if you are talking about looking a problem in the eye and figuring out what to do most of the old leadership in the 1960s was looking at it may be in the shin, certainly not in the i. the fact that you can have kids set forward a new never know when in your life cycle you are -- your testing moment is going to be is one of many lessons. the first chapter of this book, i spent lots of times trying to figure out how to begin and i began with dr. king's first speech on the mon

king is like moses, you know, the law giver, the follow me, standing up there on top of the motes, bob moses is the anti-moses, very quiet, mystical, the grassroots person and says we need lots of leaders, and i want to follow you, but i'm willing to go up to the courthouse even if we're both going to get beaten and arrested and jailed. there are a lot of models of leadership. one thing is on its face, people today need to know that people their age were leaders in serious problems. in the 1960s. the race issue was so great that most adults in that period opposed that they had it under control, but, really, it was a total fake, and people were perplexed by what to do. if you talked about looking a problem in the eye and figuring out what to do, most of the adult leadership in the 1960s was looking at it maybe in the shins. certainly not in the eye. these kids were leaders so the fact that you can have kids step forward, you never know when your trusting moment is going to be is one of many lessons. the first chapter of this book, i spent lots and lots of time trying to figure out how to begi

he was at two of my -- really, three of my 18 chapters there about bob moses, you know, a lot of people don't know about him, but he's almost a model of whereas dr. king is like moses, you know, the law giver, the follow me, standing up there on top of the mountain, bob moses is the anti-moses, very quiet, mystical, he's the grassroots person, and he basically says we need a lot of leaders, following you, but i'm willing to go to the courthouse even if we are beginning to get beaten and arrested in jail. there's a lot of kinds of models of leadership. one thing is on its face, young people today need to know that people their age were leaders in serious problems in the 1960s, that the race issue was so great that most adults in that period had opposed that they had it under control, but, really, it was a total fake, and people were fluxed by what to do. if you look a problem in the eye and figuring out whatted to do, most of the adult leadership in the 1960s was looking at it, maybe in the shins. certainly, not in the eyes. these kids were leaders. the fact that you can have kids step f

king, but bob moses and sandy lieu la milton and charles houston and all the people who layed the foundationment, i think that's very powerful. >> the president also said now is the time to reflect on where we've made progress and the work still left to do. >> i think if you work hard and you have opportunity and you're able to take advantage of it, the sky is if limit for african americans in our country. it just wasn't true a generation ago. >>> on the other hand, the lingering effects of the great recession means there's a whole lot of communities and a whole lot of people who are out of work, still struggling. and that's why son-in-law of the initiatives i talked about at the state of the union are so important. we've got to make sure that as a society, we're creating ladders of opportunity for every child, not just a few. >> ladders of opportunity for every child. that includes our most fundamental right. next, he argues about the voting rights act. it protects everyone's right to vote. no matter your color or creed. critics on the right say we don't need it anymore. and they seem to ha

i went to new orleans and then met with bob moses and some other people there. i thought very seriously and probably if it hadn't been for the financing of that, that they want people to bring their own money to bail themselves out and other things, and i needed to work. i worked my way through school so i needed a job in order to go and finish college. >> host: talk about that period. you mentioned sncc and dr. king's organization the clc. what were their respective missions? what was the overall mission of the movement? was it to get a quality is a big word. was it to get voting rights and civil rights and what else did they want? how were the approach is different from each other? >> guest: i think both of them started in terms of the freedom struggle. i think in some ways we mislead ourselves when we use the term civil rights movement because of that had been the gold goal in 1965 the civil rights agenda had been achieved. we had the civil rights act of 1964 in and the voting rights act of 1965 so if that had been the goal martin luther king would have said