bob mueller himself made an eloquent case not to raise it. >> ridge says his belief that politics fueled debate helped convince him to resign from his post. >>> so far no health care measure has been debated in the full house or senate. still taking shape in committees but we do want to give you a quick comparison of legislation being considered. here's how it breaks down. the house, the proposed bill there. consumers could choose among an array of health consumer plans including the public option or government-run program. the plan would mandate legal residents to obtain health insurance. it requires companies to provide health coverage for workers or pay into a federal fund to provide health coverage. some companies with small payrolls could be exempt. >>> take you to the senate now. a bipartisan group in the finance committee is considering a bill that is expected to include this. no government-run option, but it may include proposals for private, non-profit co-ops where individuals without coverage could join. the bill will not include mandates but a penalty for businesses that do no

back in 1998, this particular case believed to be quite angry as bob mueller in letting them go. >> kelly: you see that it's highly objectionable and so many feels lost their loved ones aboard that flight, what can america do moving forward in terms of the relationship with libya, with khadafy? >> there is not a lot we can do about megrahi at this point. british let him go. now with a hero's welcome in libya. the relationship with libya has not been a warm one. we took a very long time to reestablish normal relations over a ten-year period, not only getting out of the terrorism period but giving up their weapons of mass destruction and paying generous compensation to the families of the american victims. there is not been a warm embrace from the united states unlike in the case of the british. >> kelly: i have to ask you this does this mean that muammar khadafy two sides of him and one person, there are two sides of muammar khadafy, should we move forward with the relationship we have with him or should it be severed? >> i don't think there is any point in severing it at the moment. i thi

were other members of the national security team, including the secretary of state, colin powell, bob mueller, the head of the national counterterrorism center. what you want is for all those security officials to come together and to have a debate, have a discussion. that's exactly what happened. people had views on both sides of that. tom ridge was not the only one at that meeting. >> do you think rumsfeld and ashcroft were motivated by politics or concerns over getting their president re-elected. >> no. politics were never discussed. it never came up. the discussion i recall john ashcroft pointing to as the transcripts of not just the bin laden tape but a tape that also come out in those days, of adam gudan, who threatened to have the streets of the united states run with blood. i recall john ashcroft quoting from the transcripts and the intelligence we had at the time. >> paul, what do you make of this? first of all, i wasn't there. fran was. i have great respect for her. this is an eyewitness account from a member of the bush cabinet that says political pressure was brought to bear on hi

not raising the terror alert level were made by secretary of state colin powell and fbi director bob mueller who was taking on his boss, john ashcroft, in a meeting with other cabinet officials. there was strong support in that meeting by a group of us not to raise it. ultimately, that was the view that prevailed. >> why would it be robert mueller taking on john ashcroft. if it is not politics, why isn't mueller expressing his differing view of the intelligence okay. >> no, no. it is okay. in fact, anderson, i would argue this is the sort of debate you want to encourage and provide a forum to make sure the president of the united states gets the best possible advice. i think that debate led to the best advice of the president who agreed and accepted it in not raising the terror alert level. we have to walk away from this seeing that politics absolutely played no role in that decision. >> paul begala, do you think this kind of accusation gets made on cable news fodder and disappears or do you think this goes further? these are serious, serious allegations. >> they are. and they come during th