if that's the case, it makes you wonder, did bob mueller, the head of the fbi, know this and not report? it was interesting to me that the white house said the president didn't know. were other people know? did other people at the white house know this? i would imagine that if bob mueller knew this, other people at the white house knew this. >> greta: he's the head of the cia. we are not talking about a lower-level job. this is a big job. >> yeah, you could be compromised. that's the concern here from the fbi's standpoint. the new york times reporting that the house and senate intel committees didn't know about it until this week, though they should be briefed on this type of thing. it's a major problem. also, i mean, he has a detail, he's the cia chief. if he was messing around, didn't the detail know about it? >> greta: unless it predated his timive that's tru. we tonight know. >> what is the role of the timing here? obviously, this was going on well before the election. have you the election going on. you have republicans -- some of whom wanted to make more political issue out of ben

bob mueller was my fbi director when i was the attorney general. i suspect at some point this summer bob mueller would have notified the attorney general. i have reason to believe general general petraeus is involved in an a extramarital relationship. now i would have taken that information, which i consider significant to the president quite frankly. i think the president would want to know that information. i think the president wants to know that the person who holds many of nation's secrets is engaged in conduct that reflects poor judgment. also, at the time, we now believe reporting is there was no breach of national security as a result of this relationship. i suspect in the summer we weren't really quite sure of that consequently it might be important for the president to know that in his conversations with david petraeus. for matters of national security i think this would be a reason why the president would want to know that the law enforcement community, that the fbi, had reason to believe that david petraeus was involved in this relation

bob mueller approve giving me the access i had, especially some of the most closely guarded secrets about they break-in to plant bugging devices to catch mafia people and terrorists. they thought they could tell me what they told me without compromising anything. it tells you how the fbi works and some of the ingenious methods they used to catch criminals and terrorists. host: the fbi said there was no national security risk. "usa today" reporting fbi agents were searching paula broadwell' home. why search her home? guest: she did say it in a speech that the benghazi attack could have been because the cia annex was being used to imprison terrorists. did petraeus tell her that this as a purpose of the amnnex, tack.bored the attaefore the at there is an opening in the executive order governing this. the cia may imprisoned people on a temporary basis. there was a terrorist that was put on a ship to be interrogated for a few months. it could also be the military. the state does have the possibility for temporary incarceration. host: style section of "the washington post." he says this -- gues

and bob mueller is a very different director of the fbi than j. edgar hoover was. nonetheless, the fbi depends on a combination of secrecy and power to do its job, and that combination of secrecy and power is, poses inherent threats to democracy. it's a dangerous combination. and i think it's incumbent upon citizens and lawmakers to demand transparency and accountability. and that's probably the best way to make sure there is transparency, to be actively involved. >> i have a similar question on foia. my name system ying li. i want to know what you think the prospects are for the redacted information of all the -- the most interesting information, the most vital information being released sometime in the future? >> right. you mean specifically in the richard aoki documents? >> no, no, all the -- i mean most fbi documents have been redacted than released. and i just wondered if there's anything in the original or subsequent foia laws which would allow 50 years down the line, 100 years down the line when everyone is dead -- [laughter] for that information to be -- >>

and i know from writing the book "the secrets of the fbi," which bob mueller gave approval for -- toe incredible access to how they penetrate communications, how they wiretap, how they bug, i know that these e-mails can be traced within a half hour. the fbi just plugs into the carriers, into the servers, into the providers, everything is set up electronically. it doesn't take any five months to do this kind of work. >> i think ron is conflating a fisa counterespionage terrorism case where you get subpoenas, give them to the carrier, they dump tens of thousands of e-mails, because you get the first year and then you go back another year and they're sorting e-mails from multiple accounts so now there's more and more, and you're looking at cryptic messages, messages between people, accounts where it's apparent who it is, accounts where it's opaque, who it belongs to, draft e-mails being left in draft folders, and that takes a long time. and when you're looking at a stalking case that isn't the crime of the century, you know, you're going to not shut down the tampa office and say all han

and we're told fbi director bob mueller has a face to face meeting with the diane feinstein from senate. >> richard myer is a news senior military. general myers good morning. i begin with this question, what do you read into the fact that the secretary of defense and the president's spokesman, even nato is warning us not to jump to conclusions about general allen. >> what i read into it is that we should all be cautious, not rush to judgment, that they have to analyze the material that they have before they make some final determination on whether they are going to continue to push allen's nomination forward to the senate. it's as simple as that. >> are you surprised to learn this from a man that you know very well, that this exchange has been described as flart as dtious in emails. >> it's shocking. yesterday i was with another colleague who knows general allen for 15 years. he was a student of his. this is shocking to everybody, these allegations are shocking to everybody that knows general allen. he's a terrific officer. he's done a good job in afghanistan. very hard place to do goo

>> well, bob mueller, the head of the fbi worked very hard, but, you know, the cast of characters that keeps changing, five directors in the last eight years, now they get a sixth, and the instability makes it very hard for cooperation to succeed as seamlessly as it should. >> we'll see how it all plays out. tim winer, thank you for your time and your insight. we appreciate it. one immediate task at hand for the president, filling up his next cabinet. up next, the short list of possible replacements for key cabinet positions including secretary of state. stay with us. >>> let the guessing games begin over who will replace hillary clinton who has long insisted she would not serve a second term as secretary of state. what is obvious is that whoever takes over her position is going to inherit a slew of international issues from syria to afghanistan to iran. cnn's jill dougherty is at the state department and, jill, i guess we're learning new information from democratic officials about the cabinet position. >> well, yeah, i mean, in a way it is new, ted, these officials are saying that the