that's bob muller's job to sort that out. >> bob muller, special counsel, as of tonight appears very strongly to be investigating whether the president of the united states, donald trump, committed obstruction of justice. now, the race is on to confirm that for a fact, but in the absence of direct confirmation, it really seems clear by every indication that that's what he's doing. so we've got james comey saying under oath that president trump was not the subject personally of a counterintelligence investigation by the fbi into the russian attack on our election and possible collusion. but it appears that he very much may be the subject of the special counsel's investigation into the potential obstruction of justice. so here's the other thing going on about that tonight that is turning into a really interesting question. bob muller appears to be investigating obstruction of justice. is congress investigating that too? we know the intelligence committees are investigating the russia side of this t russia attack, whether they colluded in the russia attack. mike flynn handed over this w

i know bob muller. and folks ought to have tremendous confidence in him. i mean, he is the consummate professional. he's going to call it like he sees it. he's going to do in the right way. but bob muller is going to be deciding whether or not crimes were committed that could be used for prosecution or for impeachment. surely that's not our bar. that's not the standard of conduct that we're looking for from a president or our administration. it shouldn't just be whether you committed a felony or not. it should also be whether or not you're observing the kind of norms that we've been talking about here today that are so essential to really the fabric of the rule of law. while i have total confidence in robert mueller and his ability to conduct this investigation, i don't think that we should just be putting all of our hopes in -- that will tell us whether anything bad happened here because there's potential and i don't know what the facts are. so i'm not drawing conclusions about what -- about what he may ultimately determine. but you know, there are facts

bob muller is the prosecutor. muller will prepare a report based on all of his findings, his complete investigation and basically turn it over to the deputy attorney general and the rest of the country. so ultimately, i don't think rosenstein will be in a position to say yes or no about prosecution, and i don't think his involvement maybe as a fact witness will present such a conflict he has to recuse himself. >> i want to you listen to this sound from marco rubio he was on "state of the union" with jake tapper this morning talking about the investigation. listen. >> some of your senate colleagues as you know are concerned that president trump is preparing to fire mueller or mueller and rosenstein. how would you react if he did? >> first of all that's not going to happen. yoblg it's going to happen. the best thing that could happen for the president and the country is a full and credible investigation. i really truly believe that. if we want to put all this behind us, find out what happened, put it out there and le

his lawyer wants to take down bob muller and the question is why. they want to lay the foundation to discredit whatever bob muller comes up with. reporter: one of the members of the legal team hits the sunday shows today and to try to set the record straight. even that, it felt confusing. listen to mac i've been crystal clear that the president has not and is not under investigation. i don't think i can be clearer than that. >> you don't know that he's under investigation, sir. >> i cannot read the minds. >> we are in agreement. [inaudible conversations] reporter: the key word there is notified. they have not been notified that he is under investigation but that doesn't mean that he's not under investigation or perhaps could be investigated in the future. it just means, or maiming, that special counsel simply hasn't told him about it. arthel: christian fixture, tracking it there from the white house. thank you. rick: the congressional agenda and there's a lot of unfinished business for lawmakers ahead of their summer recess. what's on the to do list

i know bob muller. and folks ought to have tremendous confidence in him. i mean, he is the consummate rofessional. he's going to call it like he sees it. he's going to do in the right way. but bob muller is going to be deciding whether or not crimes were committed that could be used for prosecution or for impeachment. surely that's not our bar. that's not the standard of conduct that we're looking for from a president or our administration. it shouldn't just be whether you committed a felony or not. it should also be whether or not you're observing the kind of norms that we've been talking about here today that are so essential to really the fabric of the rule of law. while i have total confidence in robert mueller and his ability to conduct this investigation, i don't think that we should just be putting all of our hopes in -- that will tell us whether anything bad happened here because there's potential and i don't know what the facts are. so i'm not drawing conclusions about what -- about what he may ultimately determine. but you know, there are facts h

then we learned about andrew wiseman going to work with bob muller.last gig was running the fraud section of the criminal division of the justice department but as we've previously talked about on the show, andrew is a veteran of more than 25 mob prosecutions including really high profile ones. he managed to get a long time mobster to testify against john gotti. he got the same guy to come out of witness protection to testify against vinnie. he was involved in the prosecution of one-time trump business partner felix sater for a mob connected fraud scheme to which felix sater pled guilty. so after quarrels and then wiseman, we then learned about another muller hire, michael was hired out of the justice department. when hired, the former general of the united states told "the washington post" that he is quote the most brilliant and most knowledgeable federal criminal lawyer in america, period. bob muller added an experienced justice department trial attorney named lisa paige wired magazine had an interesting profile of her that included her experience w

then we learned about andrew wi wiseman going to work with bob muller.was running the fraud section of the criminal division of the justice department but as we've previously talked about on the show, andrew is a veteran of more than 25 mob prosecutions including really high profile ones. he managed to get a long tieme mobster to testify against john gotti. he got the same guy to come out of witness protection to testify against vinnie. he was involved in the prosecution of one-time trump business partner felix sater for a mob connected fraud scheme to which felix sater pled guilty. so after quarrels and then wiseman, we then learned about another muller hire, michael was hired out of the justice department. when hired, the former general of the united states told "the washington post" that he is quote the most brilliant and most knowledgeable federal criminal lawyer in america, period. bob muller added an experienced justice department trial attorney named lisa paige wired magazine had an interesting profile of her that included her experience with mone

believe the president's conduct rose to level of obstruction of justice and he said that's for bob muller to sort out. the president has got some serious problems after this hearing. we don't know what's going to emerge in the closed session. of course bob muellor's investigation is proceeding on an entirely different track. >> thank you, john, from our bureau down in d.c. >>> perhaps lost in all the drama today, comments that the former fbi director made about russian hacking of the election, where he said -- there should be no fuzz on that. it happened, quote. it's about as unfake as you can possibly get. let's listen now to the kmar and the vice chair. >> to have an individual that can lay some factual context to it. this is nowhere near the end of our investigation. and i think it's safe to say today that next week we hope to work with special counsel mueller to work out clear pathways for both investigations, his and our's to continue. to work on deckoconflictdeconfl witnesses and potential testimony, but we're more confident today that we can through this process work through a very

of having an ongoing senate intelligence committee investigation and a separate investigation by bob mullerwho is the special counsel. >> reporter: a big issue today, comey's claim the president cleared the room and asked him to let it go when it came to investigating michael flynn.aan÷ republican senator marco rubio said it shouldn't have happened. >> i don't think anybody will leave this hearing and say what the president says was appropriate. whether it rises to criminality, i think there are significant doubts whether it rises to that level. my hope is that there are peoplÑ in the white house that advise the president about what's appropriate and what isn't when you're interacting with the fbi. >> reporter: now, in the top of that piece you heard me ask the former fbi director why he wanted a special counsel. did he not stop to answer our bd question, but i can tell you that two republican senators ing speculating that jim comey was made, upset, about beingf2m fi jim. >> lauren, today we know the hearing was a huge event here in d.c. also across the country. so how many people actuall

and you have the right person and bob muller to lead it.t's a very important piece of work. >> vice president pence was the head of the transition. to your knowledge, was he aware of the concerns about michael flynn prior to or during general flynn's tenure as national security adviser? >> i don't -- you're asking including up to the time when flynn was forced to resign? my understanding is that he was, and i'm trying to remember where i get that understanding from. i think from acting attorney general yates. >> so former acting attorney general yates testified the concerns about general flynn were discussed with the intelligence community. would that have included anyone at the cia or dan's office, the dni? >> i would assume yes. >> michael flynn resigned four days after his attorney general sessions was sworn in. do you know if the attorney general was aware of the concerns about michael flynn during that period? >> i don't. as i sit here. i don't recall that he was. i could be wrong, but i don't remember that he was. >> and finally, let'

members of the senate intelligence committee are going to want to see the notes and memos and talk to bob muller all the begin of what might be a long process. the bombshell james comey testimony brought a new spate of headlines. >> i was concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting. asked the friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. >> reporter: for two and a half hours comey painted a picture of an fbi director navigating murky waters recalling a meeting in which the president said of flynn investigation i hope you can get this go. >> i took it as a direction. it is the president of united states with me alone saying i hope this, i took it this is what he wants me to do. the president at personal attorney disputed much of his testimony. >> the president never told mr. comey, quote i need loyalty, i expect loyalty, close quote. >> reporter: while the republican speaker of the house came to president trump's defense in a different way. >> he is new to government and probably not steeped in the long running protocols. >> reporter: comey said he assured the p

we have james comey and bob muller will see saying that trump suggested he get off and he wanted a loyalty oath from comey. woe have the president's attorney saying neither for or in substance does not say those things. why did he go out of his way to deny those things. he expressed the normal talking points. he was emphatic on this. why? he sees a real legal problem. that is close to obstruction if he asked combo one on one meetings that the president set up and he thought comey would want to have dinner with him. he asked him to go easy on flynn and for the loyalty oath. sessions is not helping the president and by his silence, you assume he did raise russia. >> there was another hearing with rod rosen stein who was taking his place and asked about -- i don't know what to call it. the trial balloon or people that talked to donald trump on the phone and maybe he can fire muller. he created a scenario and i don't think this will be the first time we hear rumors about this. i think he created a saturday night massacre type of dean and he does it the way rod rosenstein testified today. >> i'

course we just heard james comey testify under oath and the other question, the follow-up so if bob muller who is leading the special counsel asks you to testify under oath you will do so, and he iterated yes. that was a request that nancy pelosi insinuated today that she would like to see on capitol hill. but the investigation into all of this and robert muller's hands and the president seemed amendable at some point to testifying under oath, of course that leads to if that happens, what might that testimony be and when do we hear what it is? connell: 100% he said. blake, thank you. significanda the rose garden of the white house. blake there with his wing man. that's how it works when they go shoulder to shoulder after these events wrap up. i do want to direct our attention to our markets today before we get to that analysis because it has really been a fascinating day to watch them trade, and we're back in the final hour with the dow back up in positive territory. the nasdaq composite index for all those big technology stocks reside, triple digits, which is big for the nasdaq. down one

. >> bob muller would not be a special counsel in this field if we didn't have word of this kind of interaction between comay and the president and the pressure on jeff sessions. >> this is primarily a counterintelligence investigation. that is a piece of it but it's not the main thrust of it. >> there is collateral damage for the president and the reason we are discussing obstruction of justice and whether or not it would have been inappropriate for him to come in at that moment is because the investigation continues. in fact it's escalated. >> i would agree with that entirely which is why upset and i will say again that this case has traveled farther unless evidence than any scandal i've ever seen. >> intelligence agencies have said russia definitely interfered. >> what is the underlying crime. >> the underlying crime would be obstruction of justice by the president of the united states. >> mike flynn was the victim of the leaking of his unmasked name. >> you think that's the only crime. >> meeting with the russian ambassador and trying to under cut the obama administration, you don't think t

the real work is being done by bob muller. special counsel.e did have a little news from them today. one of his deputies said this will be wrapped up in three months. that is good news. >> kimberly: i'm sure the white house will be happy about that too. >> chris: i think comey deftly got his revenge on trump. trump wanted to humiliate comey. the way he did the firing, and life as in politics, when you try to do it with bravado and stick it to the other guy and do it that way, what goes around comes around. >> richard: i don't understand why everyone is beating up on comey here. the reason why we are beating up on comey's because donald trump is reckless. this is recklessness by the president. meeting with him alone, his crazy twitter fingers. which is why we are here today. >> greg: its words, not deeds. i love having an inappropriate president! what's so wrong with having an inappropriate president? its words. it not deeds. no one is dying. we are acting like he killed somebody. he had a private conversation. he had a reckless conversation. w

everything that director -- former director comey said and then next week they will be working with bob muller the special counsel to then work on making sure that both investigations, both the congressional one, the senate one and also the special counsel one can both go forward at the same time. jim. >> lauren, much work still to come. talk to me about who else was inside that packed room. who was there? >> you know, up here of course you had the committee members. not just -- >> reporter: he's actually not on the committee but he did get to be here today and ask some questions and then jim comey of course. here you had guests including the former u.s. attorney preet bharara from new york, he was in the audience here, that actually caused a little bit of a stir n that back row there were seats reserved for members, for congressional members if they wanted to come. then those tables, that's where the press sat, i sat over there by the wall. and then in thedá:ñ back you ce there actually aren't that many seats for the public, but people could come in, the public could come in, but i tell you

then when asked whether he believed that this constituted obstruction of justice he said bob muller'sg to have to decide that. he pretty wet signalled where this was going. then you saw muller begin to hire people who were specialists in obstruction of justice. then you move on to what you showed the clip of. we have the oddity which we all focused in on at the time. he had two officials who were refusing to discuss what they said with the president. but also admitted that there would be no invocation of executive privilege. just wanted him to leave the room in case he wanted to declare executive privilege later. this is not going to work with bob mueller. this is jeffrey's area rather than mine but you can't invoke executive privilege in order to stop a criminal investigation? >> is that true, jeffrey? in days they'll have to answer the questions, right? >> even in office interviews with the fbi or in the grand jury and what's quite clear under the law is that they on their own cannot invoke executive privilege. only the president can invoke it in trying to stop them from testifying,

obstruction of justice, again, jim comey would not make a judgment on that, pushing that over to bob mullerspecial counsel. jim. >> lauren, fascinating to see you this afternoon inside that room with no one there. it was packed earlier today. you were inside. so describe for us what you noticed while you were in there perhaps that the public didn't get a chance to see. >> reporter: you know, jim, one of the things i noticed wasn't necessarily something you could see but something you could hear actually. jim comey was sitting right there at that table and in front f1 o photographers, print photographers, their cameras make noises, it's something that you watching at home you probably couldn't hear that because he was using a microphone so you probably couldn't hear that, but when you're sitting here in the room you can and they started to go off every time he mentioned something that was surprising, something we didn't know. most of these people in the room probably read his opening statement that was put out yesterday so he knew some of the things he might talk about, but, for example, as

i think for good reason because he has this team of bob muller and the investigators he's assembling, they're the new untouchables. he's used to pressuring people and telling them what to , and mueller is someone who is impervious to that, so t is sweating. he's worried about what mueller is going to come up with. >> the new untouchables, quite a way to refer to them. ambassador burns, i think that often what is lost in this is the seriousness and the gravity of what we're talking about. we're talking about a foreign power, one that has historically been adversarial to our country being able to interfere or influence a national election, which is the basis of what the country was supposed to be established for in the first place. all the back and forth, this is as serious as it can get in a democracy. >> that's exactly right. the real scandal here is that russia assaulted our democracy. what russia did in interfering in a massive way in our democratic elections in 2016, it might be the most significant intervention by a foreign power in the history of the country in an election. >> th

john: there is a category of attorneys like this paid many of them are independent counsel like bob mullernvestigating the president. it is all about them. you challenge their rectitude, and suddenly they just rise around them, they are glorified by the washington press corps. it is really something to watch. because it is the model of archie cox from watergate. >> harris: 182 think about that man with the aura rising, if he really felt like the president were interfering in the investigation, wanted to he let his or arise over that? >> john: you have picked a point of vulnerability, he testified in congress after this famous encounter with the president that nobody had tried him to stop pressure and the investigation. how he answers that, if there were good questioners in the congressional committee, if. >> meghan: we have to move on. more "outnumbered" in just a minute. pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. you want this color over the whole house? [vo] what made secretariat the grwho ever lived?e of course he was strong... ...intelligent. ...exp

. >> whatever talk, bob muller, under, i mean, his -- >> his attorneys, highly unlikely. >> he said heo it, if he did do it, would that be beneficial. >> he didn't exactly say t he said i would tell them what i am telling you. >> i thought he said i will take -- >> i heard tt is he knows there is a 99% like- >> also true. >> so you get a pass. they need a lot more before they get the president under oath. like when they star and bit man got clinton under oath in the late 80s, they got clinton, but by the time watergate broke they had a mountain of stiff on richard nixon. this doesn't compare to the two cases. >> i would be remiss if i didn't pull us back one step, even as the russian investigation is critical, there are perhaps even constitutional questions in play, that relate to what this president has donor what his colleagues and associate perhaps have done. it is also important to remember that there is a lot of other legislating that's happening in the background on capitol hill. even this week republicans are holding closed door meeting on their plan to repeat and gut the afford

. >> special counsel bob muller is investigating not just russia, not just the question of whether or not trump colluded in the attack. according to james coy's testimony today, he is instiging whetr there was a criminal effort after the russian attack to obstruct justice as the russia affair started to come under investigation, he's investigating whether there was an effort by the president or other people in the administration to obstruct justice has those matters were being investigated. and here is the gigantic that the president of the united states now has with that. >> did you at any time urge former fbi director james comey european union to clo in any way, shape, or form? >> no. >> that was the president last month, no, no, i did not not urge comey to close down the investigation. director comey has now testified under oath that the president did urge him to close down the flynn investigation. he also testified under oath that when the president denied that, he was lying. >> in his press conference on may 18th, the president was asked whether he urged you to shut down the inv

that's going to come with bob muller's investigation, and that is going to be an in-depth investigationat strikes me the most poignant point out of this is what jim had to say about loretta lynch. when she told him not to call this an investigation but to call it a matter, this was a nefarious way of her making sure that the bureau and jim comey's investigators had no way of obtaining subpoenas to subpoena people before a grand jury because you're not going to subpoena them off a -- the kind of moniker that she put on -- it has to be an investigation. so what she did was slam the door for getting to the truth because really in these investigations such as the e-mail or the server, the only way you're going to get to the truth is get somebody subpoena before a grand jury. >> yeah. to your point, that might not get as much attention today. but in the coming days and weeks, i think that probably will get or should get more attention. because that was quite a bombshell. a separate investigation. but it was quite a bombshell that we heard from former director comey today. eric, let me ask yo

you mentioned some people starting to attack bob muller from the republican side. gingrich who tweeted out republicans are delusional if they think the special counsel is going to be fair. look who he is hiring. time to rethink. that is from newt gingrich about bob mueller. for a little historical context, we try that every now and then in washington, here's newt gingrich a short time ago, may 17th. robert mueller is a superb choice to be a special counsel. media should calm down. so we had our staff, look, there is one person on the staff so far and we're going to look at them all who gave about $18,000 to democratic causes over the years. that's one person. this is washington. is that reason enough for newt gingrich to suddenly turn and say bob mueller, a guy who was fbi director under george w. bush extended his term so that he could stay on, bob mueller has become a partisan hack overnight? >> no. because bob mueller is the one in charge of this investigation. ultimately to decide how to proceed and there is some oversight over him by rod rosenstein even though

political correctness that i might also add bob muller as fbi director also did a third of our training material were fbi don't even know what to look for to distinguish between a radical islamist and a muslim. we've been engaging in a great deal of that ourselves. muller is a sitting down as the boston mosque where the. [inaudible] were radicalized instead of investigating to make sure that they were not as radicalized. there's been a lot of pc here that's cause us problems and another problem and it's a pc bunch of quartz in the us who had abandoned being united states court and have taken on being the world quartz. jurisdiction does not allow them to give constitutional rights to people outside the united states. it does not give plaintiffs standing so we had some judges, i think they ought to be impeached and found out, but at a minimum, we in congress, have to make clear that we created those courts, everyone except the supreme court and we can take the travel ban issue right out from under this jurisdiction. elizabeth: you talked about that radicalization earlier. former congressm

. >> i have a lot of confidence in bob muller. i think it was a good choice. >> joining me nows a member of the team for the american center for law and justice. welcome to "meet the press" and happy father's day. >> happy father's day, chuck. >> let me begin getting clarification. i'm being investigated for firing the fbi director for firing the fbi director. when was he aware he was officially under investigation. >> the president is not under investigation by the special counsel. the tweet from the president was in response to the five anonymous sources that were purportedly leaking information to the washington post about a potential investigation of the president. but the president as jail jamey said and we know today, the president has not been and is not under investigation. >> i'll go back to the tweet, why did he say he was? i mean, was he mistweeted? are we not to take him at his word? >> the president's tweet was in response to the washington post story, so "the washington post" issued a story that had five ano anonymou

you are the head of the justice department and you will have to defend it, that includes bob muller. we were close to the president and the president expects you to give his version of events, which contradicts jim comey's version. what you do when those three constituencies, you, yourself, the justice department, and president trump have conflicting interests? what answer do you give? the democrats will start right off the back, you committed perjury. when you corrected that statement, you committed perjury again. >> martha: one of the first questions will be why did you not report that you had met with them three times? what if his answer is good? what if it is, here's the content of the meeting. this third meeting, people are saying they were on a receiving line and that it was not a meeting at all. >> andrew: the meetings in my view are either standard operating seizure or utterly harmless. that's the problem, the problem is lying to congress or, this is a more difficult one, misleading congress, one can be technically truthful and therefore not be charged with perjury, but misle

bob muller has an awful lot to go to, if he expands it into justice, it's awful lot to go to, if he expands go on and on. one thing james comey said he cancelled din we are his wife to have din we are the president. the main take—away from this hearing, don't cancel dinner with your wife, don't cancel dinner with your wife, do not dare. i never would. you've not met my wife, especially not to meet donald trump in a one—on—one. you are watching 100 days plus. hello. we have seen more sunshine this afternoon and have continued to see rain. 0ne this afternoon and have continued to see rain. one area of the country that's been plagued is this area near wigan. those are the showers coming in. the wettest weather has been across northern ireland. that weather warning should be fading away as the wetter weather works its way northwards into the north—west corner of scotland. some showers running across other parts of the uk, some clearer skies around as well. not too cold despite the temperatures being disappointing for many of us today. let us move things on to many of us today. let us move thing

that's bob muller's job to sort that out. >> reporter: there is no question in comey's mind about oneost his job. >> there was an explanation, i don't buy it. it is my judgment i was fired because of the russia investigation. i was fired in some way to change, or the endeavor was to change the way the russia investigation was being conducted. that is, that is a very big deal. >> reporter: muller has the memos and is assessing them. but comey was clearly trying to make the case that muller must investigate the circumstances of his encounters with the president to determine if a crime was committed. pierre thomas, abc news, washington. >> going to pick up where he left off. the senate intelligence committee now plans next week to speak with the special counsel, robert mueller. >> senators want to review comey's memos and notes he turned over to muller. they plan to question key witnesses including the president's son-in-law. sources tell abc news, jared kushner expected to be interviewed by the committee within the next several weeks. >> congress is pressing the white house to release a

president trump meanwhile signed off on the russian matter voicing the concerns of the special counsel, bob muller that we just talked about. >> he is a very good friends with comey, which is very bothersome. there has been no obstruction, there has been no collusion, >> bill: so are bob mueller's past ties. more on this in a moment. i wonder show which is our guest to answer all of that. >> one of the master legislator, i have met a strategic clinically astute leader. >> shannon: nancy pelosi brushing off concerns about recent losses and her future as a democratic leader there in the house that she's not going anywhere. but could she soon face a challenge from within? >> bill: also, there has been another test from north korea. this time a rocket engine. it could one day be used to target the united states. what the pentagon is telling us about this test this morning. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. the toothpaste that helps new parodontax. prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and co

it's part of the bob muller investigation and there's a number of congressional committees looking into it. >> another topic, i want to echo what the ranking member said there have been folks that have been frozen out by different agencies and that's inappropriate, when you're on the committee or a member of congress oversight is our big job. i appreciate you not doing that and i hope that policy continues. i would assume that would be the case, correct? >> yes, sir. if i could come in. as i'm going to the process of confirmation though senators and house members gave me the courtesy of an office call prior to the hearing. the one single thing i've had repeatedly is how nonresponsive this department, my department, our department was prior to. i would tell you since i've been running the show to the degree i think i'm running it, we've got over 37 appearances in professional hearings, 57 witnesses, 973 engagements and that is prior to that it was a tiny fraction. in fact, i was just talking with senator grassley who is the biggest critic over my department relative to the congressional

it requires lots of conversations, but bob muller is one of this country's great, great pros and i'me able to work it out with him to run it in parallel. >> i want to thank you once again and i want to turn to the vice chairman. >> thank you, mr. chairman. again, director comey, thank you for your service. um, your comments to your fbi family i know were heartfelt. know that, um, even though there are some in the administration who have tried to smear your reputation, you had acting director mccabe in public testimony a few weeks back and in public testimony yesterday we affirm that the vast majority of fbi community had great trust in your leadership. and obviously, uh, trust in your integrity. i want to go through a number of the meetings that you referenced in your testimony. let's start with the january 6 meeting in trump tower. where you went up with a series of officials to brief the president elect on the russian investigation. my understanding is you remained afterwards to some personally sensitive aspects of the information you relaid. you said after that briefing, you felt

i was surprised that bob muller is letting comey testify because the last thing in the world a prosecutorcutor isn't even going to be present. that's what's going to happen tomorrow. muller isn't going to be there for jim to say don't answer that. ainsley: there's no evidence of collusion. last night on hannity show, there was a montage. >> right. ainsley: saying no evidence. no evidence. >> right. ainsley: then the other investigation is the leakers and there is proof of the leakers and then this 25-year-old reality winner is the first lyric. will she get the full ten years? >> you know, i have a different view of that leak. i applaud that leak because that leak shows that barack obama was untruthful when he stated that the russians had no effort to interfere with the election. it shows that vladimir putin was untruthful, and it shows there was no connection between the trump campaign and the russians. i read that 20 page. brian: i'm so surprised you saying that because you're a man of the rule of law. she signed a confidential agreement. >> there's no question that she broke the law. ab

some assistant deputy under some assistant deputy will misremember something and bob muller will sayrubbish goes on. but it is nonsense, and it discredits this republic, this pathetic, stupid investigation for months on end. brian: and the story calling for violence and what we're seeing now with the shooting one week ago today. >> right. brian: don't you think there's more at stake than who wins at an election? >> oh, absolutely. and i think the democrats using these guys as their military wing i think is very dangerous because you don't discredit your political opponent if you keep getting more and more violent. you discredit the very possibility of civic representative government, and you make -- and people will turn to more strong man authoritarian types if they think there's actually violence loose on the streets. they're playing a really dangerous game getting into bed with these thugs. and the connection between the smart comedians and the guys smashing up everything and rioting, it's only separation. they should be slapping these guys down too. brian: all right. mark steyn, a

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described by him in tweets even this morning as a witch hunt, whether it's the new special counsel bob mullernow digging in and there's wonders whether there's conflict of interest. whether this investigation is did moving in the right direction. if you are the president, what are you thinking this morning about how you approach getting rid of this dust cloud so that you can move on your agenda? >> well, i would stay focused on my agenda if i'm president trump. for next several weeks, you must really put yourself in a position to come back into congress during the summer and have some legislative victories. whether it's getting health care through the senate, health care repeal and replace through the senate, whether it's tax reform beginning to get rolling in the house. you just had an infrastructure week about a week or so ago that you're rolling out your infrastructure plans. president trump is living up to the promises that he made to the american people during the campaign, and that's really going to be his success with the american people is going to be what they want. what they voted f

. >> we been hearing that will still get our work done despite bob muller and the investigation.ging, it's really surging. it's jumping ahead. that's because ceos i talked to say almost all of them might say, i don't wake up in the middle of the night anymore wondering what the next executive order all have to overcome is or what regulation will destroy my business. i can get back to planning and the results have been amazing. they have worked together they are and what i hear from dc is they are getting behind the tax plan, they are getting behind a health care reform plan and i haven't seen it yet but i keep hearing it. >> in the structure? >> it's going forward to. the president can do a lot on his own but it does have some bipartisan support. democrats can support this president on anything even if it's for the good of the country. sandra: we heard a change of heart from chris matthews on it msnbc. we'll see if others fall in line. newt gingrich, he shared a very similar sentiment, former speaker of the house, saying this, make no mistake, this is not about law and order, not

bob mueller. i think it was a good choice. >> reporter: is muller's probe a witch hunt? >> i don't view it that way. >> it's not a witch hunt. >> joining me now is a member of president trump's legal team, jay seculow. mr. seculow, welcome to "meet the press" and happy father's day. >> happy father's day, chuck. >> let me get some clarity here. the president tweeted this week, i am being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the fbi director. witch hunt. when did the president become aware that he was officially under investigation by the special counsel? >> the president is not under investigation by the special counsel. the tweet from the president was in response to the five anonymous sources that were purportedly leaking information to the "washington post" about a potential investigation of the president. but the president, as james comey said in his testimony and as we know as of today, the president has not been and is not under investigation. >> well, i go back to the tweet. then why did he say he was? i mean, he just mistweeted?

muller until all the rest of this trickled out. this is definitely the thinking that they are to close that this doesn't work, thoughts on that. >> what about the leaks? >> martha: michael, go ahead. >> bobne of the most unimpeachable characters in this play and he's been appointed to a task -- he's a war hero, he he's very thorough. of this investigation may clear the president, if you just steer clear of it until they get the facts, run through the process and make a recommendation. i wish he would take a deep breath. >> martha: vice president mike pence has now also hired an attorney and in a plot thickening development, it's richard: who happens to be the godparent to one of james comey's children. everyone seems to be intertwined in this play as michael put it. >> it's the swamp. everybody is interlinked in washington, d.c., while the rest of america is trying to get ahead, it's working two to three jobs to make ends meet, the swamp's intermingling with partisans left and right. at the end of the day, d.c. is the problem for a lot of people in the american dream and you know, you're right. very few times i agree with lindsey graham, it will prove him innocent of any collusion or any