that was from bob murray and associates. there was a couple members that were out last meeting and so dan worked with kate and i to make sure we would have representation here if there were questions and then also happy to answer questions. i understand from dan there were questions around the positions at the sheriff department oversight board in particular the 8181 position. so, happy to answer any questions or outline anything for the commissioners that were not present at the last meeting. >> do any of the members have questions? >> i do. i think-number 1, we haven't agreed as a board whether or not we were going to use a search firm so concerned about the budget as it pertains to the search firm and also given there is one search firm and president wechter you unilaterally reached out to that particular search firm, so i'm now more concerned that it looks like the process is not a fair process and it is just an appearance so not saying there is direct conflict but there was (inaudible) i'm not sure i want to go down the