let's bring back in the former ceo and chairman of home depot and chrysler automotive, bob nardelli. you're so smart. we're big fans of yours. so you heard edward's report. we're thinking you also saw the president touting the economy last night. when you see the government, which is now at a record 3 million workers, most in history, when you hear the president touting the economy, don't you need more private sector u.s. taxpayers to pay for more government workers? this feels upside down. >> well or, liz, thanks. it's great to be with you again, as always. you know, i listened to the state of the union last night. it was loud and seemed a little angry. but what i call that kind of headline is deceptively correct. it's just like the job report today. i always like to look one layer below as was mentioned. you know, the government has created twice the amount, number of jobs in '23 than they did in '22. so if you think about that in business when you have the debt that's increasing, cost out of control, usually you have to resize your option. so as a taxpayer, i'm not sure what my ret