my discussion with bob novak was that valerie plane recommended he go to niger. first they can't be got to talking about because i didn't know wilson's wife name was valerie plane. when he says wilson's wife sent to africa paper that too. if novak had said to me, i need you to confirm something to me, i would've said i can't confirm it. but i could've confirmed it. and again, my point is, is that the allegation was i late to name. we now know that i didn't. the allegation that it was done for political purposes, we now know that novak asked armitage, why was he sent to africa as yet no background in these issues and doesn't seem well suited for an intelligence gathering mission, a high price for ambassador, why did you send him? it was not done for political purposes. and again, there was no underlying offense. if there was an offense of richard armitage would be a much different place than making a living by being an international consultant. because obviously there was no underlying offense. you know, that this is the kind of intensely polarized where people th

you know, bob novak, i was not the source. we now know richard armitage was the source. my conversation with bob novak was when he tells me that valerie flame sent her husband to, and recommended he go to. ifrs i couldn't figure out who he was talking about because i didn't know his wife was valerie. i said i have heard that. is novak said to me i need you to confirm something to me i would have said i can't confirm it. i don't know but i have heard it but i could not have confirmed it. again my point is, the allegation was that i leaked her name. we now know that i didn't. the allegation that it was done for political sir---- why was he sent to africa because he had no background in these issues, and doesn't seem well suited for an intelligence gathering mission and high-profile bombastic egotistical former ambassador, why did you send him to? again, there was no underlying offense. if there was not answered ensign richard armitage would he in a much different place than making a living by being an international consultant. obviously there was no underlying offense. but

bob novak, i was not the source, we know that richard was the source. my contribution and conversation with bob novak is when he tells me that valerie plame said her husband to lighter, recommended keogh there. first i can't figure out who he is talking about because i didn't know willson's wife's famous dollar read plame. if novak said to me i need you to confirm something i would have said i can't control what i don't know but i heard a but i can't confirm it. and again, my point is the allegation was that while the tournament i didn't. the allegation that was some political purpose, we now know that novak asked armitage why was he sent to africa because he had no background in these issues and doesn't seem well-suited for in intelligence gathering mission, high-profile sort of bombastic egotistical ambassador why did you send him and so it was not done for political purposes, and again there was no underlying offense. if there was an offense, richard armitage would be in a different place than making a living by being an international consultant beca

now interestingly enough, the never knows about richard's conversation with bob novak. it's unclear exactly when during the process of september of 2003 secretary of state powell becomes aware of it. at the end of september, he appears on abc "this week" and says, in essence, we don't know anything about it. >> host: you dedicate to the book to andrew, darby, louis and reba. who are they? >> guest: my son and former wife and mom and dad. my wife and i was very close. we have great affection. washington was very hard on the marriage. >> host: tell us about reba. >> guest: he was my mother. she and my father met when they were very young. very early 20s. he was a student at colorado school of mines. they were very different. graduated from high school. never went to college. he was a very smart, graduated and became a mining engineer, geologist. he was interested in classic music, reading, art, and she wasn't. they were very much in love. for a number was was years, they had five children. it was a remarkable relationship. >> host: she committed suicide. >> guest: she did