bob o'donnell is here in the studio. this volkswagen story is just mind blowing.hat is your take away from this? is this a cautionary tale about more and more technology in our cars? aboutis a cautionary tale corporate malfeasance. it is a scandal of the greatest proportions. the consequences will be far greater than a few billion dollars in fines. it would not surprise me if the company goes under. i'm not kidding. this is horrifically inappropriate behavior. ,n terms of the software piece it is fascinating that we have moved into a world called the internet of things, where software is in everything, and now we have an example of the world's largest automaker using their software to deliberately break the law. that is a terrible president as we are moving into a new world of software-to find everything. i find it terrifying. software-defined everything. bob, what you think the implications are? >> the notion that they are using software to intentionally get around the rules and break the law. emily: it was an intentional -- >> yeah, and this is fundamentally the

and bob o'donnell of another place. david, this volkswagen story is just my line. what is your take away from this. is this a cautionary tale about more and more technology in our cars? abouta cautionary tale corporate dangers at one of the highest levels that we have ever seen. i think it is a scandal of the greatest proportions. i think the consequences are going to be far greater than a few billion dollars in fines. i'm certain the ceo is going to lose his job. it will not surprise me if the company goes under as a result. this is her ethically inappropriate behavior. i do not think that the company has acknowledged how bad it is. in terms of the software piece. it is fascinating that we are now moving into a world that is called the internet of things where software is going to be in every thing. now we have an example of the world largest automaker using the software that they install in their thing, their car to deliberately break the law. i think that is a terrible president as we are moving into a new world of software to define everything. i find it just p