his name is bob perry. the other jury assisting him will be daniel schweitzer. supervisor campos: thank you. mr. perry, mr. schweitzer. good morning. welcome to government audit and oversight. again, thank you for your service. >> thank you. good morning again. thank you for the opportunity

his name is bob perry. the other jury assisting him will be daniel schweitzer. supervisor campos: thank you. mr. perry, mr. schweitzer. good morning. welcome to government audit and oversight. again, thank you for your service. >> thank you. good morning again. thank you for the opportunity to be able to talk to you about our report. my name is bob kerrey, the chair of the committee. daniel was a member of the committee, and he will be presenting as well. i am going to be making some general comments, and his will be more specific. the purpose of the civil grand jury is to represent the interests of san francisco citizens to ensure their tax dollars are being used to their maximum benefit. in issuing its report, the jury enters factual accuracy of the investigation, factual support for its findings, and a logical connection between its findings and recommendations. although we talked to a broad range of people, including current and former mta's employees, citizen groups, elected officials, industry experts, it is important for me to say that all factual informa

>> bob: sure, it's rick perry. >> andrea: better than prisons in the world. t many. it's hard to imagine. i am going to texas to lose weight in prison. just whip them. >> dana: okay, move on. >> bob: why don't you waterboard them! >> dana: all right. we'll move on to something that is a few days away. we talked about the stories coming out about the schools that are banning the costume or celebration altogether. the state representative in connecticut thinks he has a perfect solution. he wants to make the last saturday of october halloween, before thursday of -- third thursday is thanksgiving. would you support this idea? >> eric: a great idea. it's nice. saturday night, trick or treating. >> bob: this is safe. not as many cars on the road. who made halloween a holiday? >> eric: exactly. >> andrea: all hallow's eve. >> greg: if i go out and offer candy i'd get arrested. >> bob: i wouldn't trick-or-treat at your door. >> dana: how do you trick-or-treat in new york with apartments? i'll find out. that's it f

inherited a family oil and has given a million dollars to crossroads this year and yet another texan bob perry has also been a major contributor to crossroads in fact perry has already given five hundred thousand dollars we should also know that he's a good friend of karl rove's probably good indicators through why is a major player for this group or rove has found a solid way to utilize money and spread the conservative message i urge you of course not to forget about the koch brothers their pacs some reported back now reporting on a division between these two funding powerhouses so that's going to be interesting to watch let's take a closer look at another conservative political action committee restore our future might as well be called the we love mitt romney group was formed by several former aides of the g.o.p. presidential candidate and they easily weighed in that gray area as to not get too close to romney's official campaign and like i said they are one hundred percent behind romney so they could be sending out messages that explain how america needs a president that can run this coun

>> bob: i give perry credit for shaking this up. ture of the reform. >> eric: are you on board? >> bob: i'm for perry. i know we'll crush him. >> andrea: all right. i want to savor the moment. savor it in a commercial break you agree with perry. coming up, they want to unionize. i can see steam comes out of eric's ears and smoke coming out of bob's. or maybe his nose. will the labor movement help legitimate the movement? that's next on "the five." ♪ ♪     [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. and celebrex is not a narcot

not okay if perry wins? >> bob: absolutely. y they knock points off of romney. >> kimberly: i know you like the visit herman cain who is doing well in iowa. where do you think he will end up in the -- >> eric: probably end up fourth. you can be hot but you have to have organization to deliver the bodies and he has no organization. 99 counties and thousands of caucuses. he is not prepared to do it. >> dana: santorum might do better in iowa. >> bob: he may. >> dana: he could get in the upper tier. you said romney -- you are fan of setting the expectation low in camps. but romney has it slow so when they come in second, it will be a big deal. >> bob: if he can pull it off. i don't think he can. senator graham from south carolina said that the candidates, republicans foreign policy that doesn't make sense. it's not foreign policy election. this is the first time that if obama has an edge one place it's foreign policy. any way, coming up, life in libya after gaddafi. i wish i was there. may not be what some expected. surprising state

>> bob: i give perry credit for shaking this up. eparture of the reform. >> eric: are you on board? >> bob: i'm for perry. i know we'll crush him. >> andrea: all right. i want to savor the moment. savor it in a commercial break you agree with perry. coming up, they want to unionize. i can see steam comes out of eric's ears and smoke coming out of bob's. or maybe his nose. will the labor movement help legitimate the movement? that's next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ú(h cúcqhpbcdúgeastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to "the five." according to the latest gaplop poll, a record 50% of americans think pot should be legal. that is up from 46% from last year. 12% from 1969. a year bob can't remember. i have been around drunk and stoners in my life and i've never been punched by a stoner. i can't say the same for drunks. everything i regret in my life occurred after four melon balls. potheads are annoyed but they're generally harmless and shouldn't in jail with aryan methheads who are making knives out of subst

perry probably got a better shot now than he had before. >> eric: hallelujah. finally! finally open up to the guy who really should be the g.o.p. nominee. >> bobdidn't say that. >> eric: the real conservative to win the nomination. he did great. fantastic. rick perry stood up. he wasn't tired. everyone said you got to get more sleep, get more prepared. he was prepared, he took shots and he went at mitt romney for the first time anyone went after mitt romney in any debate. >> greg: let's show that -- show what happened. it was a pretty heated exchange. here we go. >> mitt, you lose all of your standing from my perspective, because you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year. and the idea that you stand here before us and talk about that you are strong on immigration is on its face the height of hypocrisy. >> gor romney? >> rick, i don't think i ever hired an illegal in my life. >> greg: how did romney take that? the little laughter -- >> dana: i didn't realize eric bolling talked about the body language experts. i would have loved to see that. >> eric: awkward laugh. >> dana: a little awkward. i thought rick perry made a po

another one with bachmann -- >> bob: we're not talking more about perry? 're not leaving. >> dana: leaving for this block. just for two minutes. give bob back a cough drop. pacify him for a little bit. all right. occupy wall street gets violent and police are forced to fire tear gas at protesters. we'll show you that wild scene on the street of california. where else? next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ look, every day we're using more and more energy. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? ♪ that's why right here, in australia, chevron is building one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. what's it going to do to the planet? natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. we've got to be smart about this. it's a smart way to go. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: by the way, donald trump, you may have been getting your wish, because i'm now down to the "e" block. welcome back to "the five." now to wild scene in oakland, california, yesterday between police and protesters on occupy wa

perry. pastor bob jeffers calmed mormonism a culture -- called mormonnism a cult and repeated that today. the perry campaign did not agree with that view, nor did they ask to be introduced by the pastor. they say that was coordinated by event organizers. >>> today is 10 years since the start of the war in afghanistan. we're taking take look at how fight has changed over the years from a soldier's perspective. >>> combating stress could be as simple as holding your loved one's hand coming up on the news edge. [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] movie buffs! this film is tres bien, but the interest rate on your checking account is le pew. interest on your checking? earn more with new high yield free checking at capital one bank. your interest rate will be five times the national average. five times the interest! and free atms at any bank. show's over folks. make your way to capital one bank. what's in your wallet? were you crying? yeah. >>> president obama said in a statement today al-qaeda is as close as ever to defeat thanks to the men and women of our armed forces. we'll hear how the

match like with octomom and amy fisher. >> eric: perry dropped to third and fourth like everyone seemed to think. why is romney taking a shot at him? >> bobrnal polls and knows that perry is second best. the best chance that cain has is to get heat off of him and go after romney. if i were herman cain that would be my strategy. >> andrea: best chance perry has to get cain out of the race. >> bob: yeah. what it's doing is forcing romney to play in iowa. if there is only one conservative candidate, romney can't duck it. >> andrea: coming up on "the five," new loan debacle heating up for the obama administration. yes, another one. for half a billion dollars. for something being made overseas? yes. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ dr. ling ] i need to get the results from the m.r.i. see if the blood work is ready. review ms. cooper's history. and i want to see katie before e goes home. [ male announcer ] with integrated healthcare solutions from dell, every patient file is where dr. ling needs it. now she can spend more time with patients and less time onaperwork. ♪ dell. the power to do more. hut! go! here it comes! right on the nu

match like with octomom and amy fisher. >> eric: perry dropped to third and fourth like everyone seemed to think. why is romney taking a shot at him? >> bobinternal polls and knows that perry is second best. the best chance that cain has is to get heat off of him and go after romney. if i were herman cain that would be my strategy. >> andrea: best chance perry has to get cain out of the race. >> bob: yeah. what it's doing is forcing romney to play in iowa. if there is only one conservative candidate, romney can't duck it. >> andrea: coming up on "the five," new loan debacle heating up for the obama administration. yes, another one. for half a billion dollars. for something being made overseas? yes. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [ inner voice ] establish connection. give me voice control. applications up. check my email and text messages. hands in position. airbags. ten of 'em. perfect. add blind spot monitor. 43 mpg, nice. dependability. yeah. activate dog. a bigger dog. [ male announcer ] introducing the reinvented 2012 toyota camry. it's ready. are you? ♪ exclusive to the military. and commitment is not limited to one's militar

match like with octomom and amy fisher. >> eric: perry dropped to third and fourth like everyone seemed to think. why is romney taking a shot at him? >> bobinternal polls and knows that perry is second best. the best chance that cain has is to get heat off of him and go after romney. if i were herman cain that would be my strategy. >> andrea: best chance perry has to get cain out of the race. >> bob: yeah. what it's doing is forcing romney to play in iowa. if there is only one conservative candidate, romney can't duck it. >> andrea: coming up on "the five," new loan debacle heating up for the obama administration. yes, another one. for half a billion dollars. for something being made overseas? yes. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ the 3.6-liter v6 engine of the jeep grand cherokee has a best-in-class driving range of more than 540 miles per tank. so you can catch morning tee time in monterey and the afternoon meeting in los angeles, all without running out of gas. just make sure you don't run out of gas. ♪ with advanced power, the verizon 4g lte network makes your business run faster: smartphones, laptops, tablets, mobile hotspots.

match like with octomom and amy fisher. >> eric: perry dropped to third and fourth like everyone seemed to think. why is romney taking a shot at him? >> bobinternal polls and knows that perry is second best. the best chance that cain has is to get heat off of him and go after romney. if i were herman cain that would be my strategy. >> andrea: best chance perry has to get cain out of the race. >> bob: yeah. what it's doing is forcing romney to play in iowa. if there is only one conservative candidate, romney can't duck it. >> andrea: coming up on "the five," new loan debacle heating up for the obama administration. yes, another one. for half a billion dollars. for something being made overseas? yes. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ let me tell you about a very important phone call i made. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare, call now to find out how an aarp... medicare supplement ins

match like with octomom and amy fisher. >> eric: perry dropped to third and fourth like everyone seemed to think. why is romney taking a shot at him? >> bobrnal polls and knows that perry is second best. the best chance that cain has is to get heat off of him and go after romney. if i were herman cain that would be my strategy. >> andrea: best chance perry has to get cain out of the race. >> bob: yeah. what it's doing is forcing romney to play in iowa. if there is only one conservative candidate, romney can't duck it. >> andrea: coming up on "the five," new loan debacle heating up for the obama administration. yes, another one. for half a billion dollars. for something being made overseas? yes. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ daddy, come in the water! [ gnome ] awwwwwwww. i just feel bloody awful. she told tiffany, stephanie, jenny and becky that she was coming to a place like this! but somebody didn't book with travelocity, with 24/7 customer pport to help move them to the pool daddy promised! look at me, i'm swimming! ♪ [ gnome ] somebody, get her a pony! [ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. if your booking's not right

another one with bachmann -- >> bob: we're not talking more about perry? e not leaving. >> dana: leaving for this block. just for two minutes. give bob back a cough drop. pacify him for a little bit. all right. occupy wall street gets violent and police are forced to fire tear gas at protesters. we'll show you that wild scene on the street of california. where else? next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar. the two trains and a bus rider. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: by the way, donald trump, you may have been getting your wish, because i'm now down to the "e" block. welcome back to "the five." now to wild scene in oakland, california, yesterday between police and protesters on occupy wall street. they fired tear gas after saying bottles and rocks were thrown at them. they tried to clear the proteste

. >> reporter: now, conservatives may be defending perry but, bob, this story comes as he's trying to his campaign back on track and just when voters are asking who is rick perry. >> schieffer: all right, well, thank you very much, jan. in a moment, we're going back to scott in afghanistan and a place that gives the wounded new hope. at bayer, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspirin. it has microparticles, enters the bloodstream faster and rushes relief to the site of pain. it's clinically proven to relieve pain twice as fast. new bayer advanced aspirin. your nutritional needs can go up when you're on the road to recovery. proper nutrition can help you get back on your feet. three out of four doctors recommend the ensure brand for extra nutrition. ensure clinical strength has revigor and thirteen grams of protein to protect, preserve, and promote muscle health. and immune balance to help support your immune system. ensure clinical strength... helping you to bounce back. ensure! nutrition in charge! add listerine® total care for more c

romney and santorum never got back to us. >> bob: here is the problem for perry.but there is only two months left in the iowa caucuses. you are not going to turn down televised debate. you can't do it. what he did in iowa is interesting. run television ads that are positive ads. at least not negative against opponents. they're against obama. if i were he i would go to the debate. he can't afford not to do that. he needs to engage people. this guy is in trouble in the polls. he has got to use his money to get back in the game. >> eric: 18 more? >> bob: no, there are nine. >> eric: 18 more debates. >> bob: they're not all televised. >> eric: that is what he means? >> dana: they didn't say they weren't going to do them. they have a new team. they hired people. maybe they are taking a moment and looking at this. unfortunately for them and all of us, you have to eat your spinach. you are going to have to sit there at the table until you're finished with your spinach. they have to do the debate. he will get better at it. >> ericit >> bob: did your mom make you eat spina

he certainly has enjoyed cain's rise because it's led to perry's downfall. gregg: bob, thank you. have a great weekend,. >> you too. jenna: a park occupied by wall street protestors has planned cleanup today. demonstrators say the cleanup is a way to get rid of them and they'll disobey orders to make room for the cleaning crews. in seattle, police ended up arresting ten occupy seattle demonstrators for refusing to leave a tent in a downtown park. the protestors planning even bigger demonstrations now after this event. david lee miller is live from dukaty park in lower manhattan where he's watching the latest from there. david lee. >> reporter: jenna, it was a very tense morning, up until 6:00 this morning, that's when the park claimed there would be no evacuation necessary. you can see zakati park, there are hundreds and hundreds of people in that park. let me give you m context of where the park is in relationship to wall street. let's pan over down the street here, that is actually where wall street is located, three blocks to the south of this location, after the decision was m

. >>> lions, tigers and perry, oh, my. bob shrum and richard wolffe on the snarling gop. the tea party congressman who can't stop laughing at his constituents. >> you're a congressman, don't laugh at us. >> keep laughing, congressman. we'll see who gets the last laugh at year reelection time. >>> plus russell simmons on occupy wall street and the coming election. >> we want the politicians to work for the people. >> "politics nation" starts right now. >>> welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, america has a choice. it's a choice between a party that wants to get this country back to work and the one that doesn't. today the president and the first lady announced a series of initiatives aimed at getting jobs for the nation's veterans. >> everyone can do something. everyone can do something to honor and support the brave men and women who have served us all so well. >> getting jobs for our nation's veterans is something both sides have backed in the past, and the president isn't going to let the republicans forget that. >> when i first proposed this idea in a join ses

. >> bob: >> no, but we do zillionth around the table, dana said and you said also where is rick perrylicy? good when he says -- >> bob: he is not saying that. he has henry kissinger, the youngest guy on it at 93. >> andrea: in bob's defense, the reason he is not saying anything new he has 22 of bush's former advisors. so a lot of people would say is that a smart move? >> bob: good point. >> andrea: to bring back bush's advice sors. no question that romney has the most sophisticated operation out of any of the candidates. he is doing things. but you wonder why would he do something so controversial? this is much less about romney and more about bush. why open yourself up to that? >> greg: what a surprise. like shakira. >> bob: i can understand why he needs to talk about foreign policy. he has laid out position on jobs which is ridiculous, but the point of this is if you are going to do something on this, call for something significant? did you deal with the united states and china? >> eric: because he is winning. you're a football guy, right? if you are running the ball and getting fou

people who have a grievance, bob perry, they have grievance and a lot of money can mess with this for quite a while. >> so alec baldwin's head playing rick perry fell on the podium in exhaustion at the hard, hard questions. the economic debate, the bloomberg washington debate. as chris said mitt romney can win them all and still not maybe get above that 25%. >> see i don't buy that. >> put the 25% in perspective which has been romney's cap so far. >> well, the thing is you're looking at a very, very large field. and you're looking at a lot of people doing window shopping. i think now the singing "somewhere over the rainbow" and pining for a new kid, that period is pretty much over. i think these guys are going to sort -- the republicans have to make some choices right now. my humpling is we've got two candidates who can raise a lot of money, with the durability to go deep into the schedule. i think it will be a fight like obama-clinton. start off with a big field with joe bidens and dodd's and bill richardsons, those get sorted out. two guys going the distance and the question is, you

for perry, louisiana governor bob jindall. and inside president obama's reelection strategy.is morning on "meet the press." be sure to stay tuned for a special press pass conversation with anchor of pbs news hour jim lehrer to discuss why presidential debates matter and the strategies behind winning only here on nbc 4. >> this building has been jumping with all the people here. >> i know. >> two great shows coming up today. i can't wait. >> it is west virginia's biggest festival. >> and it can also be one of the world's most extreme. more than 400 people took a leap of faith from the new river gorge bridge yesterday for the annual bridge day celebration. the more than 30-year-old celebration draws about 200,000 people a year to watch b.a.s.e. jumpers hurl themselves off the world's third longest steel arch bridge. it stands 876 feet above the whitewater rapids. >> whoo! >> it is one of the largest b.a.s.e. jumping events in the world. i guess to put this in perspective, washington monument, 550 feet. 876 feet. that's like jumping off the washington monday. . more than that. >

other than that, perry picked himself up old bob dole staffers from when bob dole, remember him, from when he ran 15 years ago. so tanking rick perry has got himself some old school republican staff help this week. also there's that herman cain who seems to be doing well with his 9-9-9 version of a flat tax. tanking rick perry has come up with his own version of a flat tax that accomplishes the same goal of huge tax cuts for rich people and big tax hikes for everyone else. so tanking rick perry has all of a sudden this week got himself some old school establishment republican staff like mitt romney has and got himself a flat tax sort of like herman cain has. but when time is short and you are really tanking and really desperate, a kitchen sink strategy really does mean trying everything all at once. and so from the flash in the pan candidacy of donald trump, the reality tv person, tanking rick perry is also now going with questioning the president's birth certificate. seriously. raising the birth certificate issue in "parade" magazine this weekend and then doubling down on the birth c

perry, 7%. newt gingrich at 7%. bob?irst, the "des moines register poll" is the most accurate poll in iowa. it always has been and one we depended on. do one 30 days out and do one before the caucuses. half the caucus attendees in iowa show up anyway. they go. the other half you have to pull out. the problem cain has got, he has no organization. to poll voters out. i don't know if perry does or romney does. how hot he is, how well he has to do in the poll. he has to get them to come to the caucus. >> eric: this was in advance of this. bad timing for cain. you point something out. maybe he is the one that is going to make his way. he hasn't been attacked yet. >> kimberly: he made the prediction. >> bob: the reason i made the prediction, you see everybody else back up to him. the reason i am talking about gingrich, he is one guy throughout the debates who acted like an adult. he hasn't gotten in a fight. or told people not to get in fight. he attacked the media. republicans like that. just like herman cain was in new hamps

perry. on the white house and democrats are happy to see that. >> bob, let me show you this. le think this may be a short lived fight. look at the money trail. rick perry has raised $17 million, mitt romney $14 million. this can go on for some time because rick perry no matter how low he is in the polls has $17 million in gone one quarter to spend, this food fight can go on a long time because mr. perry can buy a lot of groceries. >> it kind of speaks to another similarity between the two and that is their very, very tight relationship with big business. you have mitt romney who calls corporations people and of course rick perry would probably call them just plain folks. but you have two people who are really diametric opposites going for the same nomination. and what newt gingrich who thought that he would ever be peace maker talking about maximum bickering. what you have is republicans acting for all the world like they're democrats. >> it also raises another thing that i was thinking about watching the last debate. they clashed so vociferously and then someone kind of start

perry appears this week to be launching his comeback plan. step one, he got himself some new establishment republican staff. a lot of bobdole for president staff, if you must know. seriously old school. step two, rick perry got himself a new herman cainesque flat tax. step three, he got himself a donald trumpesque birther platform, playing to the tin foil hat fringe implying that the president is secretly foreign and therefore not really president. as of today some new steps. tanking rick perry also floating the idea that he will fix his being bad at debates problem by going on offense. not by going on offense during the debates but by going on offense against the whole idea of debating. >> actually, these debates are set up for nothing more than to tear down the candidates. it's pretty hard to be able to sit and lay out your ideas and your concepts with a one-minute response. so you know, if there was a -- if there was a mistake made, it was probably ever doing one of the -- ever doing one of the campaigns when all they're interested in is stirring it up between the candidates. >> tanking rick perry now saying debating

comes he has to deal with the way that rick perry and michele bachmann and everybody else did and we learn scrutiny sometimes undercuts your poll numbers. >> bob, when it comes to rick perry, he hasn't been the greatest week for him. is this something he came out of the gate so strong. is this something he can recover from and truly remain a contender or are we seeing the beginning of the end of his campaign? >> well, he certainly lost a lot of support but as major and he were just talking just before this, he has also raised $17 million. he can stay around for a while because he has been able to raise this money. but he's got -- you know, as ricky ricardo with used to see on to lucy on "the lucille ball" show he has a lot of explaining to do. we will see how he does that. he has not done well in the debates up to this point but when you can raise that kind of money, it will keep him around for a while. >> we know you need a lot of money to be in this case. great to have you both with us. bob's guest this sunday morning will be herman cain and newt gingri gingrich. >>> some health groups say the recommendation could lead in their estimation to

. >> speaking of bad blood, bob, let's talk about rick perry and mitt romney here. perry clearly taking the gloves off, if you will, in this debate in las vegas. is that the right approach for rick perry right now? is it the only approach? >> well, i think he had to do something to show people he was just not just sort of sitting there because in the debate before this one, he had almost very little to say, almost nothing to say. his people knew that he had to do something to try to get back in the game. now rick perry has raised a lot of money, $17 million. mitt romney has raised a lot of money. i think it is still a two-man race, but i think the perry folks and probably perry himself realize they were going to have to do something to remind people that they were still in this race. i'll tell you something else, though. we talked about that poll just a minute ago where mitt romney now has a tiny little lead out in iowa. if mitt romney somehow wins iowa and i still think that is something of a long shot, but if he does, he may have a chance to run the table here bec