. >> bob: on a serious note we would like nobody better than perry. >> eric: i disagree. >> bob: i amng about democrats, which you know nothing of. we, listen -- can i say one thing about the poll? the base republican vote in this country, anybody will get 37%. even you would get 37%. george bush the elder hit the mark. it used to be 43, 42 democrat/republican and the rest were independents on the side. it's now 40/38. that means voters have grown in large numbers. none of this interests me whatsoever. obama just barely makes the democratic threshold. the rest of them, top ones make republican threshold. what is missing, the quinnipiac poll is a good poll. 3,000 voters and margin of error is 1-2%. it's reliable. i think it tells -- >> dana: are you encouraged by the numbers for your side? why not? >> eric: >> bob: obama should do better against perry. >> kimberly: he needs more in this. >> bob: he is doing better this week. >> greg: i want to bring up the job approval numbers went up. 47%. >> kimberly: nothing to write home about. >> greg: but it's bet than 41%. >> kimberly: i think h

his name is bob perry. the other jury assisting him will be daniel schweitzer. supervisor campos: thank you. mr. perry, mr. schweitzer. good morning. welcome to government audit and oversight. again, thank you for your service. >> thank you.

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if you touch israel we'll blow your ass off the face of the earth. >> dana: all right. >> bob: perry, take 15 minutes to say hello. >> dana: bob is going to take lessons from his brother, who is an actor, on his imitation so he can entertain us for the rest of week. up next, has president obama kicked his smoking habit? we have the doctor's notes on "the five." ♪ ♪ the markets never stop moving. of course, neither do i. solution? td ameritrade mobile trader. i can enter trades on the run. even futures and 4x. complex options, done. the market shifts, i get an alert. [ cellphone rings ] thank you. live streaming audio. advanced charts. look at that. all right here. wherever "here" happens to be. mobile tradi from td ameritrade. number one in online equity trades. [ male announcer ] trade commission-free for 60 days. plus get up to $600 when you open an account. back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." so the doctor's report is in. president obama is officially smoke-free. what it doesn't say if he's nicotine free. i know smokers qui

if you touch israel we'll blow your ass off the face of the earth. >> dana: all right. >> bob: perry,ake 15 minutes to say hello. >> dana: bob is going to take lessons from his brother, who is an actor, on his imitation so he can entertain us for the rest of week. up next, has president obama kicked his smoking habit? we have the doctor's notes on "the five." ♪ ♪ welcome idaho, where they grow america's favorite potoes. everyone knows idaho potatoes taste great. but did you know they'reood for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry the heart checkmark from the american heart assoction for foods low in saturated fat and cholesterol. so they're good for my family, and for yours. heart smart idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare

bob: it's my bookie again. put it down. what was governor perry -- this is for you, eric. t's off. >> bob: governor perry, your guy, says that he announced he wants to have a debate. right? with nancy pelosi. >> eric: all right. all right. so he says, i would like to offer nancy pelosi a debate. >> dana: not a date. debate. >> greg: did they walk in a bar? >> eric: but she shot back saying i can't remember the third place i'm going to be. ha, ha. but perry shot back again. can we take a listen? >> bob: oh, we actually have tape? we do. sorry. >> i chuckled a bit when nancy pelosi, she may have forgotten all the reasons she can't debate me on overhauling washington, d.c., but american people sure haven't forgotten. >> what he did ask if i could debate here in washington on monday. it is my understanding. that such a letter has come in. monday, i'm going to be in portland in the morning, i'm going to be visiting some of our labs in california. and the afternoon. that is two. i can't remember the third thing. >> eric: she cease so funny. >> dana: i liked it. >> eric: i think s

romney. >> bob: perry. >> andrea: not many. >> eric: a controversial ad when it came out this morningnd today or so. take a look at what mitt romney's ad looks like taking a shot at obama. [ cheering ] >> i am confident that we can get ourselves out of this thing. we need a rescue plan for the middle class. eager for my belief evolves. a new direction. if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose. >> eric: okay, we need to point out that the left is up in arms over, mr. obama's campaign is up in arms over that ad. >> bob: for good reason. mitt romney lied, taken out of context. the line at the end about the economy, we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose, was herman cain. it was obam -- it was mccain. mitt romney was quotinromney --g mccain. you can't be more honest than that -- >> greg: i can't believe you're upset over a dirty trick. >> bob: i want you to suggest when you suggest to say that the republicans are not dumping on barack obama, that is all they've done. they do in a deceitful, vicious way. >> eric: the guy talking about making the phone calls

bob: it's my bookie again. put it down. what was governor perry -- this is for you, eric. s off. >> bob: governor perry, your guy, says that he announced he wants to have a debate. right? with nancy pelosi. >> eric: all right. all right. so he says, i would like to offer nancy pelosi a debate. >> dana: not a date. debate. >> greg: did they walk in a bar? >> eric: but she shot back saying i can't remember the third place i'm going to be. ha, ha. but perry shot back again. can we take a listen? >> bob: oh, we actually have tape? we do. sorry. >> i chuckled a bit when nancy pelosi, she may have forgotten all the reasons she can't debate me on overhauling washington, d.c., but american people sure haven't forgotten. >> what he did ask if i could debate here in washington on monday. it is my understanding. that such a letter has come in. monday, i'm going to be in portland in the morning, i'm going to be visiting some of our labs in california. and the afternoon. that is two. i can't remember the third thing. >> eric: she cease so funny. >> dana: i liked it. >> eric: i think she

perry hasn't done better. are you surprised at the latest poll? >> andrea: no, i'm not. bobngrich would rise. but i think he played it safe the entire time. it's not surprising. rick perry after a series of stumbles has fallen. what is also interesting about the poll the likability facto factor. romney and cain are the likable. newt gingrich isn't that high up. asked who would be trusted with the nuke, majority of the respondents said newt gingrich. that is interesting. likability is important. they want to know they will like the guy or gal in their living room for the next four years. >> dana: gingrich had an early stumble out of the gate in june but has come back, as bob predicted. what do you think of the latest -- he had a private sector life. he wanted his clients freddie mac. some people make something of that. do you think it hurts him? >> eric: i like newt. he is the smartest guy at every debate. he should be near the top. he will have a hard time explaining $1.5 million he got from fannie and freddie demanding it may not be part of the bail-out. hear me out. it wil

. >> bob: that would be -- >> kimberly: bachmann or perry. >> bob: it's too late for that. >> dana: rickry has one. >> kimberly: perry, bachmann. >> bob: but face it, they are not going to get the nomination. probably the person is mitt romney. he does not have a flat -- >> eric: this hurts mitt romney. the failure in d.c. hurts him. the established republican b.s. that goes on folds in perfectly with the democrats. >> bob: that is a good point. this will hurt all incumbents. one thing about the people in congress, i will say this. the last cnn poll had who is to blame more? 50% republicans and democrats. there will be surprises. big-time incumbents will be knocked off. >> dana: some of democrats have already come out and said president obama didn't do enough to help them. his role could be to bring people together. >> greg: the only person to get us out of this is macaroni steve doocey. you found your leader. >> kimberly: his hair is amazing. uncanny. >> bob: doocey would do a better job than the super committee. >> kimberly: i agree with the incumbent. look at what happened with the mi

. >> now, bob, rick perry, who has been underwhelming, to put it nicely, still hasn't given up.ighting back. "new york times" is reporting he just made a million buy for campaign ads on fox news. >> he tried to turn around his gaffe, which was disastrous let me show you a video where he tried to turn around his gaffe. >> number six -- >> hey, listen, you try concentrating with mitt romney smiling at you. that's one handsome dude. >> number two -- >> yeah, i wanted to help take the heat off my buddy herman cain. >> and the number one rick perry excuse -- >> i just learned justin bieber is my father. >> oh, my gosh. >> i take issue. i like justin bieber, but beside that can money save him? >> i don't think so. there are moments in politics that should indelible. 123467 even though the bush/quayle ticket one, quayle was through in american politics. i think that we saw that indelible moment when governor perry for 53 seconds couldn't tell us what one of the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish was, and then said oops. i don't think it matters if they spent money. i think the

will bob serve in the perry administration? ave us. >> bob: president of the insane asylum. president obama goes to harlem to get election advice from a surprising source. we tell you who it is next on "the five." stick around. ♪ ♪ >>> i'm bret baier in washington. the big story here today is the approaching deadline for the deficit reduction committee. tonight on "special report," we'll tell you about the prospects for a deal. the members of the supercommittee face a deadline in eight days for recommendations to cut more than $1 trillion from the budget. we have news tonight on the 2012 campaign front. there is a fresh survey out that shows a virtual four-way deadlock at the top. herman cain, ron paul, mitt romney and newt gingrich. we'll have the numbers and today's action on the trail. brit hume will be along with thoughts on the challenges ahead of newt gingrich as he continues to climb in the polls. we showed you last night the company behind the keystone xl pipeline project agreed to reroute it around environmentally sensi

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bob: who did that? who did that? >> eric: then rick perryeepy at the debate, drunk at a speech. >> bob: who did that? >> eric: now herman cain. >> bob: are you suggesting that's democrats? >> eric: unequivocally -- >> bob: do you have proof >> eric: i dent have the proof. >> bob: of course you do. >> eric: this is taking the eye off the real issue. the economy stinks, jobs are horrible, and you know what? [ overtalk ] obama. not -- >> bob: let me say this as calmly as i can to you. making allegations like the with no evidence and nothing to back it up. >> eric: i didn't point a finger to any person. >> bob: cain did a good job. we have impressions now, and it's starting to hurt him in the polls. the idea that somehow he would infer and you would suggest that this has something to do with the democrats is outrageous. >> andrea: i agree with bob specifically to come out and name the democratic party, naming rick perry without proof is not a wise move. however, the way that the main stream left-leaning media has gone off with the same kind of -

. >> reporter: at the are rip -- perry point va medical center, bob hevner offers his talent as a gift. >> i think we did it before. >> reporter: in fact, this is seen as a welcome extension to treatment programs. since 2007 guitars for vets have reached over 1200 veterans at va hospitals around the country. >> it's an amazing tool to use in terms of therapy sessions because it helps people connected, regardless of the age. they identify with it. >> it saved my life. >> reporter: matthew has served tours in kuwait, afghanistan and iraq. >> there have been times in my life i was far down the totem poll. it was either the choice of doing something stew ped or pick -- stupid or picked up my guitar. >> i lost my job. hi to start over. this is a good basis to start over. >> reporter: a month -- lamont west is another student. he feels something different with a guitar in his hands. >> releases inner feelings, inner pains. >> reporter: everyone involved admits there's true potential in this program. >> a little about the of self-esteem for accomplishing something. it's a challenge for some o

. >> bob: good try on all of your part's. here is the problem. if rick perryot had the problem going on of being seen as a bad debater, that's where his vulnerability was. he had a bad debate so this maximized his weaknesses. i think frankly there is no recovering. not just from this. i don't think he was going to recover anyway. this will make contributors and others say good try. too close to iowa. ain't going to happen. >> greg: the next debate is saturday. what should he do? continue to self-deprecate? to me it was endearing. i saw on twitter, oh, man, he's done. i watched it and i thought it didn't seem that bad. he rolled with it. it was awkward. >> dana: he rolled with it. the best strategy for him in the next debate do what bob said, hit a home run. a foreign policy debate. it can't keep up with all of them. saturday night, a tough night for a lot of people that might watch. if you have a gaffe, that's what people see more of the next day. >> bob: the problem here generally is perry was viewed skeptically before this and will be viewed more skeptically

perry, 7%. newt gingrich at 7%. bob?irst, the "des moines register poll" is the most accurate poll in iowa. it always has been and one we depended on. do one 30 days out and do one before the caucuses. half the caucus attendees in iowa show up anyway. they go. the other half you have to pull out. the problem cain has got, he has no organization. to poll voters out. i don't know if perry does or romney does. how hot he is, how well he has to do in the poll. he has to get them to come to the caucus. >> eric: this was in advance of this. bad timing for cain. you point something out. maybe he is the one that is going to make his way. he hasn't been attacked yet. >> kimberly: he made the prediction. >> bob: the reason i made the prediction, you see everybody else back up to him. the reason i am talking about gingrich, he is one guy throughout the debates who acted like an adult. he hasn't gotten in a fight. or told people not to get in fight. he attacked the media. republicans like that. just like herman cain was in new hamps

msnbc contributor, melissa harris perry, and was also here yesterday, and veteran, bob herbert, now a distinguished senior fellow at the think tank. thank you for joining me. >>> first off, all candidates met in a church last night for a debate. it was sponsored by the christian group. the six candidates sat shoulder to shoulder around a table direct directed for thanksgiving. rick santorum, and herman cain was asked about a moment that led them to the path of god which i found effective, and then newt gingrich jumped all over the occupy wall street protesters. this is the biggest applause line of the night. take a listen. >> all of the occupy movements starts with the premise that we owe them everything, and they take over a public park they didn't pay for to go nearby to use bathrooms they didn't pay for, and to beg for food and obstruct those to go to work that are sustaining the park so they can self-righteous lisa stain they are the paragons to which we show everything. that's a simple as to how much the left has collapsed and why you need to reassert something like go get a job

. >> bob: the white house didn't send me this. >> greg: which rick perry will show up? rick perry of every previous debate or fun rick perry with the moving hands? i want to see the loose perry. >> eric: how about the one that the plan is best of all plans for creating jobs. >> kimberly: flat tax. >> eric: yes, but also he says open up the drilling. open up the west coast/east coast continental shelf to drill and create million jobs. i think rick perry and newt gingrich have the best plans. >> andrea: i agree. rick perry needs -- i know we say this but he needs to now more than ever hit a home run this evening. >> kimberly: why is that? nipping at the heels. >> andrea: you ask where does the support go if herman cain loses his? where would it go? to perry or santorum? their chance to step up. >> greg: it's a bar, last call. right now a few people are hanging out that should be going home. moderators should be taking the chairs and put them upside down. >> bob: this could not be a better setup for newt gingrich. going in to tonight. he has momentum on his side. he said w

it helps mitt romney a little bit but it helps rick perry and to bob's point, the fact that politico is not saying whether or not another campaign gave them the story to me is an admittance that yes, they did. >> let's keep in mind that thousands of times a day, corporate america, they get a complaint, they pay it off and call it severance and they go away. what doesn't go away is the file and the accusation, no evidence, but they pay them off, because they they want torque as you said, get them out of the way. if i were herman cain, i would do one thing, we did this with gerry ferraro, say i'll answer every question, but after this press conference is over, no more questions. bill: did you hear what roe said that the -- rove said that the -- even though they settled, there was no proof of it. >> i think it would open a pandora's box. bill: it would not clear it up? >> i think it would give us more insight because clearly politico is not giving us insight and they should be the ones providing the details. >> the real insight is who's leaked this. this smells like another campaign. >>

bob grant and rudolph guiliani who used to work for. they wrote about how racist guliani was whenever condemning -- >> hold on. wait a minute. wait. perry quickly. >> he was a filthy, felt the greatest. why did you never get guliani to try to disassociate himself from bob grant used to, and luther. >> thank you very much. but the point. >> first of all, bob grant has his own zip code. resiliency had nothing to do with them. i'm offended that this person would throw a round or like racism and apply it ignorantly to reach guliani. people can have this agreement. we do have disagreements that demonize each other, and i think that colored did just that. you mentioned bob herbert, a great columnist. and we saw, but the question, the right column. and he said that has been one of his favorites. i want to give back to of one of what the previous caller mentioned, langston hughes recalled for two decades for the chicago defender. one of the great things about this book was not just the great calmness of the past who were in danger of being forgotten, but american figures before the became novelists or playwrights, likes to use, of henry, hunter

perry. >> dana: you are the one watching. >> eric: i watch it -- >> bob: they started the story about obamauld argue -- >> dana:ing that the "new york times." "new york times." they do. they have regular features segments on the morning shows. on msnbc. morning show, political briefing, andrea mitchell report on political playbook. they got a sweet, cozy deal. >> bob: the other cable news networks is going to try to follow "the five" and have a morning talk show like this. good luck! >> kimberly: good luck. wouldn't want to be yeah. all right. the president says americans are guilty of torturing people. is that fair? we'll debate it next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk. but think about your heart. 2% has over half the saturated fat of whole milk. want to cut back on fat and not compromisen taste? try smart balance fat free milk. it's what you'd expect from the folks at smart balance. ♪ >> dana: welcome back. saturday night's republican debate candidates were asked about waterboarding. later, president obama had a response. >> herman cain said i don't see

perry trying to get some laughs added a debate blunder. we'll have more >> virginia will get help to help repair damage by the august earthquake. bob macdonald said the man has approved his request for assistance. thomas jefferson elementary school closer of the because of the damage. >> the earthquake damage national cathedral will open tomorrow for the first time since the earthquake. this special event will take pace. she will be the first ever female bishop of that diocese. her sermon set for sunday. >> and 83 victims of the victim of for hood are suing the army. they say negligence allowed him to carry out the terrorist attack in november 2009. it stays the government had a clear warning that he posed a real danger. >> deadly shootings have marred protests in two cities. in vermont say a 35 year old veteran shot himself to death inside a tent. is not sure why he disappeared a mammoth shot and killed outside the occupied oakland camp. there's a fight between two groups of men. it is not clear if they were associated with the protests. >>> turning down to the protests surrounding harming came. we will hear more from his accusers

perry. >> dana: you are the one watching. >> eric: i watch it -- >> bob: they started the story about obamat the "new york times." "new york times." they do. they have regular features segments on the morning shows. on msnbc. morning show, political briefing, andrea mitchell report on political playbook. they got a sweet, cozy deal. >> bob: the other cable news networks is going to try to follow "the five" and have a morning talk show like this. good luck! >> kimberly: good luck. wouldn't want to be yeah. all right. the president says americans are guilty of torturing people. is that fair? we'll debate it next on "the five." ♪ ♪ what's better than gold ? free gold ! we call that hertz gold plus rewards. you earn free days, free weeks and more fast. that's a plus. upgrade your ride. that's a plus. rewards with no blackout dates so you can redeem anytime. and it's easy to redeem your points online. already a gold member ? just select gold plus rewards in your profile and start rewarding yourself now. just go to hertzgoldplusrewards.com to join. hertz gold plus rewards. journey on. the world n