crisis caused by wall street, an oil spill caused by an oil company, stagnant wages, the things bob reich was talking about. you would think we'd be in a big liberal era. why aren't we? because people don't have faith in the instrument. they don't have faith in government. and a lot of perverse things have led to that erosion of faith. some of it events like this. i think "60 minutes--" without meaning to-- every week if you do scandals in government, ung a lot of scandals there in washington. and so there's been an erosion of support over a generation. >> woodruff: but you're not saying that's just due to what the republicans are doing? or are you? is that what you're saying, the republicans, one party has called confidence in government to drop? >> i think it's fair to say that the republican party right now is dominated by antigovernment spirit. and an antigovernment belief. and david's right. the democrats believe historically and presently that government is an instrument of social justice and of economic progress. and one of the problems-- and david made good point-- is that we have

look, i'm not going to speak for bob reich.ing read his column i don't think that's what he's saying. what he's saying and i agree with this is that democrats would have preferred, myself included, a single payer program. the heritage foundation, certainly a conservative organization, proposed the initial skeleton of what you see with obama care. then newt gingrich ran with it back in the '90s. then mitt romney, again republican governor of massachusetts enacted it at the state level. exactly what you see here. it's been a republican proposal time after time. the minute barack obama attaches his name to it, scores of republicans oppose it. orrin hatch of utah was one of the big proponents of this back in the '90s. no longer because barack obama supports it. >> when this passed under nancy pelosi not one republican voted for it. >> of course. because barack obama and nancy pelosi supported it. obviously. >> julie and lars, thanks for your time. >> thank you so much. >>> carnival ride operator in court today facing criminal charg

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robert reich. bobaw your film last week "inequality for all," a terrific film, a great explanation of how the economy works and doesn't and i thought you would be a terrific voice. we talked to olympia snowe who got out of government while the getting was good. what's wrong? what is it that the days of yore are so different than they are today? >> i'm not sure, ashleigh, the days of yore are all that different. i was there in 1995. i had to tell 15,000 employees of the labor department that i didn't know when they were going to next get pay checks and that they all had to go home. so to some extent this is a repeat of what we did see 17 years aquo. . >> 17 years is a long time to have that not repeat. and it seems we're careening, you know, almost month after month. i need to remind our viewers if they just tuned in, we're in a big discussion over a six-week stopgap measure. not in a discussion over debt or a budget. we're in discussion over a six-week stopgap funding measure that we can't even agree o