i was just in arizona two or three weeks ago, bob reich. there the premiums for health insurance have doubled. people can't afford it. they're going to drop their health insurance. so this idea that everybody is going to have insurance under obamacare and nobody is going to have it under the republican plan is i think fatuous. >> secretary reich? >> it's obviously a blow to the republicans who are supporting this repeal and replace. and it was a replacement. that's what they advertised it as. it was supposed to replace obamacare. and donald trump said over and over again during the campaign and he said again after he was president that nobody would lose coverage. well, here you have the congressional budget office whose director was appointed by the republican congress saying in effect that you've got huge losses. i mean 14 million people the first year. 24 million people over ten years. look, if i were a republican, a member of congress right now, i would be worried that possibly this bill could be enacted because then i'd have to run for

that's necessary, bob reich, that people will not lose their insurance for the first two, or three, or four years, until we adjust this system. >> how do you square what you just said with the omb said? do you think that omb was out to lunch? keith hall. he was appointed by a republican congress. you think that he's wrong? >> no. i think he's not scoring the plan that republicans are talking about. what he scored is what happens if you totally repeal obamacare. he's not taking into account, there's going to be a new system that reduced the cost of health care, brings premiums down. and, anderson, the point i would make and donald trump would make, when you reduce the costs of insurance, more people can afford it. the problem we have bright now, we're going off this cliff. the average increase of premiums across the country was almost 25% last year. middle class health care cannot afford the current system. >> can you help me. he scored the repeal. he didn't score the replacement. where is the replacement if it wasn't in the republican bill? >> such a hot topic right now. >>> harsh audi

i'd like to see a bill even bob reich might support, cut the business taxes so we're competitive andess hope. add infrastructure spending in there and get democrats and republicans to have a jobs bill that brings jobs home. >> you said something i absolutely don't understand. cut corporate taxes so we can be competitive again. you think american companies now swimming in money doing better than ever in the past, you think they're not competitive somehow and need a giant tax cut? that is absurd. >> how many american businesses have to leave the united states, whether johnson control, pfizer, walgreens, they're all leaving because of taxes. >> they are doing extraordina extraordinarily well. they don't need a tax subsidy from americans. >> secretary rice, i appreciate it. to be continued, stephen moore. appreciate it. >> how president trump seems to shift the story when things don't go his way and a new tweet he posted before. and this tactic for many who have followed president trump for decades. to kill lawn weeds to the roottd without harming a single blade of grass. draw the line w