bob ruben, the storied head of goldman sachs for many years, coming to take the reins of treasury, hewas a real guru, and brought a lot of proteges, larry summers being one of the examples, tim geithner being one of them. the economy crashed, and robert ruben gets a great deal of blame. bill clinton did a mea culpa on robert ruben. >> the firewall between commercial banks and investment banks, and a big supportive of derivatives, deregulation, and all of that contributed to the fiscal crisis. after he left the treasury department, he went to citi. >> went back to citi. >> $126 million in nine years? >> he did very, very, very well. >> you call ruben the primest of movers in the modern marriage of politics and wealth creation. >> absolutely. he was the ambassador to the clinton wealth machine. when you had people like rahm emanuel, who was a mid-level white house, you know, operative in the clinton white house who was able to go to perrella and make 16.2 or 16.8 -- >> $18 million in two and a half years. >> before he went back to become a public servant again and run for congress. yeah

bob ruben was the first. all high ranking people. i think larry lindsey did it in the bush years. president has taken up so much real estate and so many things in so many things it almost downgraded these important jobs not to say it won't play a role in the budget negotiations, these jobs aren't as important. you don't have the president's ear as you did in the past. that may be another reason. bill dale bill daley abruptly resigned in 2012 because of valerie jarrett. he felt she was the chief of staff and not him. >> it's been a tough run. the last two years have been very difficult trying to get the economy repaired and cranking and going and still a long way from where it needs to be. that has to be a grind for somebody in that position. >> it's constant tension, government shut down potential, sequesters. this is a high burn-out job. i think bottom line, it's not as prominent as it once was even though you're still at the table, right? and these guys they want to make money. tim geithner the treasure secretary callinged have been fed chairman. president obama and a lot of peo