>> i would begin by discussing what bob ryan brought into the conversation. in his graduate work, he worked for one of the leading licensees and weather modification. >> he had discovered the use of silver iodide. but for him, in schaefer had done the first weather modification experiments at schenectady. >> grade. >> one of the things to address that is that i think all research meteorologist would agree that the more we can understand what is going on and the more we understand the process that initiates, let's say, hurricanes, and how these go through life cycles and tornadoes, the better understanding we can have of the fundamental science, i would daresay that before we can really have an intimate and detailed understanding of the life cycle of some of these, even very small scale, but extreme events, then we're not in a position to say let's try to do something to mitigate. we have to do everything first that we can do to create an environment where people take action, and it is interesting, the conversion of the structure for earthquakes and as bill ma

. >>> the mayor of shaw boy begin, wisconsin, bob ryan, says he will never recover after a three-day bender. it started friday night and ended three days later. the admitted alcoholic got into a fight and passed out at a bar. this after he told the city council in twine, quote, alcohol will never again play a role in my future. i thought we had a picture of him. oh, they won't let us show the picture. that was the whole reason of doing the story. there was a picture of him. >> we have all been there. >> that was the whole reason we were doing the story so i could show him like this. >> this is working. >> does he deserve another chance? >> absolutely. a little mea-culpa. what i really think is that the city council needs to have a couple of pops and relax. >> bottom line this wouldn't have been a story if it wasn't for the picture. that's the only reason we are doing this story is because of the picture. >> and that was one of my questions. >> anyway. that is an iconic image. that's going to linger on the internet. i think what is telling about this story is to kick him out of office

. >> bob: ryan complained about the supercommittee and said not much will happen with it.it? >> before that, did you listen to what he said? >> bob: did you? >> boehner comes to you and says paul i want you on the committee, you're mr. budget, would you go on? >> i would if he did that. >> do you want to be on it? >> well, look, i'm not putting my stock in this committee. people are overemphasizing what this committee is going to achieve. i don't think the committee will achieve a full fix to republicans because democrats never wanted to put their healthcare bill on the table. >> bob: is it me or does he look like alfred e. newman? i don't know. >> dana: why the personal attack? >> bob: it's no i like newman. the reason he's downplaying what he can do is the power is going -- if they were successful, the budget committee would not be as powerful. appropriation committee the same thing. remember if, if there is a chance that the committee would do something, they have to come out with a major rewrite of the entire economic plan for the future. it's not subject to amendment

bob ryan plan calls for in terms of the changes to medicare is right on. -- what the ryan plan calls for. similar to the insurance program that exists in utah. closing the gap on medicare. we have to change the rules of the game. you can guarantee people above 55 years of age that we will hold true to our commitment as a country. those under 55, that dynamic will have to change. we will act to show more flexibility. we will after broad in the marketplace. the average human being is paying in overuse our lifetime $100,000 to medicare and taking out $300,000, the system is upside down. i like what paul ryan says about that parro i compare. in social security, we are going to have to take some bold measures as well. we will have to back out the retirement age. we have no choice. we will have to move it close to the 85th percentile of the average length of life. we are living a whole lot longer than we were in 1935 when social security came about. a combination of moving the retirement age and maybe indexing the underlying numbers to cpi as opposed to the assumptions that today are being

ryan's party managed to get off. one of those aboard was nbc field producer bob flick.s was the account he gave. >> there were many shots. every time somebody would fall down wounded, they would walk over and shoot them in the head with a shotgun. >> bob was pretty traumatized. he watched his cameraman get killed. he watched his correspondent get killed. he watched steve sung, who he thought was mortally wounded. when the shooting started he got out. he had survivor's remorse, survivor's guilt, how come i didn't die there. >> they waved the guyanese people out of the way and were only to kill americans, which is what they tried to do, to kill all the americans. >> ten other people, all americans, were wounded -- >> in those first frenzied hours, nbc had no way of knowing that they had buried the lead to one of the biggest stories of the decade. it took 13 minutes before the report even hinted at trouble inside jonestown itself. >> there have been reports of mass suicides in jonestown after the shootings at the airstrip. >> and then it took another week before the world

welfare reformer tommy thompson and budget cutter paul ryan. 0 to progressives wisconsin is the loam of fighting boband fought for liberal wage or nelson or russ feingold. two very different traditions living side by side for decades. my high school friends and i to this day can have friendly debates between the thompson republicans and progressives. that's how it used to be. but not anymore. governor scott walker by aligning hems with out state wealthy conservative zealots like the coke brothers in citizens for strong america turned this quiet state into a political war zone. the other side is not blameless, taking lots of union money from washington to fuel their side the debate, but this election today broke all funding records with a vast majority of the over 30 million compare dollars coming from outside groups. just match fn that money had been spent on schools like my old high school here. could the coke walker crowd, destruction and division are the goal, not something to be avoided. recently it was discovered that the walker administration sought to cut the number of drivers' licenses offic

bob, scoreless and ichiro makes a nice play in right field. both these teams have been out of it for two months and saltantance dropped off 25%. that beautiful pall -- ballpark. ryaneeney goes to the wall. mariners win 8-4. so this is a battle to see who stays out of the cellar. 49ers lose manny and he signs with the bengals. and frank gore, the doors were open and he showed up. after missing the first four days, he has been fined $90,000. gore has a salary of $2.9 million, sounds like great money but running backs, you play a few years and limp the rest of your life. gore has a bad hip, he is trying to come back and the 49ers will deal in good faith. one of the all time greats is retiring. randy moss. 13 years in the league. man, he can make plays when he felt like it. came out one year for w the raiders, stole money and left. he just -- again, they looked at potential teams, and nobody was there. at this point in time it's hard to believe that randy moss will go sell cars. indeed, he is going to to probably, probably wait a little bit. sharks are spending money. one of those deals, always nice to know that brett is well compensated. signing fan for the sharks, f

ryan plan. >> now, we talk about the supercommission, the 12 people, bob. what do you feel that this is -- they won't agree to anything, it will play into the election and bush tax cuts are going to expire anyway? what do you feel about the super 12 group? >> well, after the last couple weeks, i think anything is possible. i think there will be immense pressure on the super 12 group to come up with something that can fulfill the second part of this plan so that the automatic cuts or triggers don't go into effect. and i think they probably will. i think there might be tweaks to medicare, for example, but there will be nothing like the ryan plan which would voucherize the plan and cost seniors $6500 a year more. i think the president feels better now about the outcome than he can let on. if he looks like he feels better about the outcome, the tea party people and republicans in the house may not pass the compromise. that's what has to get done here. then go on, fight another day, draw the dividing lines for 2012, and i think we can win. >> dana, do you feel t

bob francn, liz sidotti and ron christie. we had a lot of people making decigs yesterday on candidacies, we'll start with paul ryan.he made the decision he was not running for president, but he put out a statement saying, fyi, i'm not running for president. this time i'm for real. let's not talk about ryan but what is this about clambering in front of other people, we have heard of ryan and new jersey governor chris christie. what are republicans feeling about their field? >> quite frankly they are feeling barack obama is beatable, but nobody is there who can beat him. newt gingrich still hasn't dropped out. so maybe his announcement would be i don't care what anybody says, i'm still in. >> i'm running and staying in. a little more surprising in utah, jason, the congresswoman there, decided not to challenge orin hatch. vulnerable to a challenge? and is it surprising he took a pass? >> good young conservative, a bright, young future. hatch has been in for a while. some of the tea party analysts say it is time to go, but he's run into a money gap. he has a great house seat, why put that at risk. >> and young. that's

robert ryan, a wonderful actor, we had a lot of scenes over a table like this. and i see these big puddles of sweat and said, bob, after all of these years you're still nervous? he said, oh, yeah, i'd really be scared if i wasn't scared. >> really? >> and frederick march, he's like in his late 80s and anxiety and not wanting to drop this great opportunity. big time. >> imagine making movies, because of the pace of them, unlike live theater, there's no real nerves because if you make a mistake you just redo it. >> oerk, no, but it's the whole -- you know, the term, dropping the ball. that's what it feels like. remember with crazy heart, for instance, what an opportunity to do this movie with -- >> it was the perfect film. >> oh, my gosh. >> your dream role. >> burnett is in charge of the music. how wonderful. yeah, but are you going to be able to pull it off? are you going to do it. >> it's like the wide receiver going out for a long ball. please, let me catch this thing, you know. >> fascinating. >> yes. it creates more anxiety. >> yeah. and when you played that role, obviously music being this great passion out

bob -- >> get out gracefully. >> that was just a guy who said he was newt. >> the man is brilliant. but here's -- he stumbled into it with the paul ryan. distancing himself from the real conservative answer to the debt crisis and then where he went away on a vacation with his wife in an important week in the campaign. and now this. >> newt gingrich has never had an unspoken thought. >> i agree with bob. i think he needs to go. he closed his tiffany account. he should close its twitter account. >> if he had a half million followers, nobody would have questioned. but he went for over a million and people started to say, what's up? finally, a brand-new poll in a critical swing state, pennsylvania, nos mitt romney leading barack obama by a fairly significant amount, 2 points. i know it's early. but, you know, have you romney routinely pulling ahead of obama in critical states. bob? >> that's a resounding figure there. i just say this, in 1984, when i managed mondale, the year before the election, we were ahead in 27 states. i rest my case. >> the unemployment number in pennsylvania has picked up and all trends show it's going in that direc

ryan. the problem they are funded by move on.org. two-and-a-half million of george soros money goes to moveon.org. they develop the tactics -- >> bobkarl rove do? >> eric: this is an issue and if they are guilty for attacking someone who doesn't deserve to be attacked, he better hire you. >> kimberly: i don't see this as a frivolous suit. there is merit to the claim. it doesn't matter they get here. the media put it out here. we talk about people and they know about it. the guy lost the election. there are more of the lawsuits going forward. >> monica: don't both sides use negative ads because they work, greg and they're effective? remember bob dole once said stop lying about my record. isn't it up to the candidate to fight back? >> greg: i wonder, bob will probably yell at me. i don't think they work. i've never been influenced by campaign ad. they're boring and amateurish and silly, hand fisted and full of p.c. >> bob: i won't yell at you but the ads cross the boundary from your record which were legitimate to take on with the personal attacks and in the end it may cost you the opportunity to pursue another job. >> eric: you foe

stumbled in it to it with paul ryan distancing himself and debt crisis and his why wanted to away on vacation in middle of an important week of the campaign. now this. >> bobhad an unspoken thought. >> andrea: he needs to go. close his tiffany account and close the twiter account. >> monica: he got greedy. have a million followers no one could have questioned this. but he got greedy and went for over a million. people are saying what is up? a new poll shows that mitt romney is leading barack obama by a significant amount right there. two points. i know it's early in this. but you have romney pulling ahead of obama in critical states. bob? >> bob: that is a resounding figure there. i'll say this. in 1984 when i managed mondale, '83 before the election we were ahead in 27 states. i rest my case. >> monica: unemployment number in pennsylvania picked up from 7.4 to 7.6. >> andrea: all trends show it's going in that direction. >> monica: jobs, jobs, jobs. >> greg: romney is the generic republican. >> bob: hair is je meric. >> monica: we have to leave it there. coming up, attack on a beloved childhood fairy tales of all time. why the "three little pigs" may soon

ryan reynolds is in it and kevin bacon and another musician. >> charlie: in your highest dreams who would you like to play with. >> i got to py with bob dylan.a high point for me. >> charlie: did you play music. >> he taught me to play. i was in my trailer and there was a little knock hey, do you want to pick. i mean, erything was sweating. but i got to act with him and it took abo half a day where we just jammed on acting and pretending together like we were kids, you know for a day working on this scenend trying it different ways and that was a thrill. >> charlie: i know more actors that sort of have a thing for him more than any other particular person i know. actors who love music love dylan more than anybody. do you find that to be true. >> yes, i would think so. >> charlie: more dylan than the beatles for you or not. >> yeah, i would think so. i mean as far as acting. >> charlie: no, in terms of who is a poet that spoke to you. >> yes, probably so and the fact he's still doing it and still working it and he's got such a presence. >> charlie: here's a clip from what a little bit of love can do. here it is. ♪ i know you're feeling down a

bob, and you know it. >> it was not a political stunt. it was real specific stuff and guys refused to understand that. >> and the democrats wouldn't have embraced t paul ryane out with a plan, republicans supported that plan, they passed that plan. why won't the democrats and the senate do the same? >> i was asked to make phone calls by a certain big house to certain liberals and they said they would take it if and only if the republicans were willing to increase some revenue and they wouldn't do it. so you want to put the fault on the falldown between boehner and obama, deal, it was right at the feet of the tea party. >> it was a downgrade, bob, it wouldn't have prevented the downgrade. >> we'll take you from that downgrade from theoos -- what ought to be downgraded is s&p. i alone dollars -- listened to that guy this morning. i wouldn't buy a bad scooter from that guy. >> you won't have to. >> the buy, beers? sell something, man, nobody is buying it. bill: i'd like to see you on a scooter. i will see you both at 5:00, congratulations on the new program. it's good television at 5:00 and you're going to have plenty to bat around today. andrea, bob, thanks