>> my recollection, bob shaw, i believe, was here at the time, we determined we wanted -- we wanted to do because it had been so long since we issued an r.f.p. in this area, we wanted to do a very broad, wide sweep. so we weren't focused on a region or a niche, which is normally when we employ the r.f.i. we determined at that point in time since it was going to be broad, and we had not done an r.f.p., we just did the r.f.p. to see what was out there. and i agree, we were premising that we wanted to select some of our managers. you can close down an r.f.p. there's a process, but -- >> our goal was to replace 'cause we thought we could and should replacing, adding more value -- it wasn't just we want today do a search for the heck of doing a search. >> no, i think we were concerned that we did not know necessarily, you know, whether the strategies were out there. i mean, not that we didn't know them, but we wanted to see how many people would be interested to bid. i don't know that it is necessarily to replace our existing managers. we wanted to look at them relative to our existing mana