so when i heard this i knew bob sheppard and tony gwynn, i said they have to me. i arranged for that meeting, tony talked to bob sheppard about names and pronunciations and how do you hold the microphone and everything for half an hour. and at the end of it i got bob sheppard to record the introduction, and now batting for san diego, number 19 tony gwynn, and put it on one of these little, you know talking greeting card thing as long with the picture of the two of them, sent it to him, and 9 next time i saw him he said yeah, it's in my trophy case next to the silver bats they gave me for the batting championships. he thought it was, that is literally who he was. this memento of being a major league baseball player was as important to him as the momentos of withining the batting championships. >> rose: from the beginning of baseball did you love, love sports? >> it was instantaneous. if i could go back with a calendar i can give you the exact date that it occurred. a kid named wolfgang who i went to grammer school with, 1967, i am at the party, the party favors for