investigative work here that you have dug this up so there is -- i remember mary louise oates who is bob shrum'se said to bob when he was running the kerry campaign, said "he knows he runs the band of brothers, there is a group of larry tribe and bob shrum and larry and hebner, i'm the godfather of larry's children and they did an intervention in 1972 -- i turned 30, my so was three, i'm a single parent, and they said you've got to go to law school, you have been 12 years with the girls, you've got to go to law school, i applied to five schools including n.y.u. and harvard. larry tribe was recently tenured. all five turned me down. including n.y.u. law school. then they went in and intervened and a woman named molly garrity, dean of admissions called me and she said, "you have been accepted on reconsideration" and i said "i have to be honest with you, i'm going to tell you the truth, i thought one of the new york schools would accept me and i could phase out my debating team and go to law school at the same time. but i can't do law school right commuting from boston and i'm not going to desert t