in los angeles is democratic strategist, professor bob shrum.nd in washington is former minnesota governor and 2012 presidential candidate, mr. tim pawlenty. and i would like to start with you, mr. pawlenty. you know mitt romney well. there the president was, praising the effectivaneness of massachusetts health coverage that was signed into law in 2 it,000 and making the point that in the first month, only about 123 had signed up. by the end of the year, it was in the thousands. did he make the case? >> well, martin, good afternoon to you, and the president, of course, noted some of the similarities between the massachusetts plan and the affordable care act. and but there are also some important differences. he noted that in massachusetts it was done on a bipartisan basis. of course, in washington, d.c., it wasn't. in massachusetts -- >> and we know why that is, don't we, sir? >> yeah, in massachusetts. >> we do know why that is, don't oh we, because the president repeatedly referenced the fact that governors in various states and half of congre