joining us to discuss, democratic strategist bob shrum and robert schrader. being here. gentlemen, first off, what do these republicans gain from being at a summit like this? robert? >> i think a couple of things. as mitt romney said, it's a great convenience if you will, to be in the same room with a lot of rich people as it relates to if you are running for president. and i also think that mitt romney is a convener when it comes to ideas and networking and so forth. you're right. he lost twice. no question about it. that he probably would not be running in 2016. but he still very much is a connector as it relates to the ideas, but also when it comes to the money which is exactly what the republican party needs. new, fresh ideas and, obviously, the political muscle and financial muscle to go against hillary clinton, if, in fact, she becomes the nominee on the democratic side. >> it's a testament to how big his profile still is, plus horseback riding. so fun. bob shrum, what about this element of attacking hillary clinton. he went afterer in the speech. blame

bob shrum and robert trayhnam.the obama administration dispute that when it's coming straight from the horse's mouth? >> it's a piece of naked propaganda. the taliban had been trying to capture or kill americans for a long time. they are going to keep trying to do that. those cells from al qaeda will keep trying to do that. look, the israelis have a long record of being very tough on terror. they've engaged in the prisoner swaps at the scale that's far larger than this. and in two cases trading over 1,000 people to get back a soldier much it was fundamentally right to get him back. i think the president did the right thing. i think you could have legitimate arguments whether it was handled in the right way. >> bob shrum, if you're going to cite the israeli example, israel in part because of that policy constantly dogged by attempted kidnappings of their soldiers. >> there have been attempts to kidnap forever and they want to do it all the time not because they get people back. that's one of the reasons but because

. >> joining us bob shrum, and democratic strategy, good to have you with us.lear that dick cheney is not going to back off on his strategy. it's all about making the american people think that the president is so wrong headed on counterterrorism and not fighting it the way they did. what's the mission here as you see this all unfold here, bob? >> they are losing control of the dialogue in the republican party of people like rand paul criticizing them. only 20% of the country would support their approach to iraq. the truth is that dick cheney and neocons shouldn't mention the word iraq in the past or present tense outside. confines of confessional. i know why they don't want to talk about the past, they not only mistaken and lied us into a war where there were no weapons of mass destruction and created the potential for a shiite crescent from tehran to the med terrain yan sea only blocked by the sunni insurgency and that invasion is what unleashed that on iraq. you want to talk about the present? ask these guys what they would do differently? i think they yearn

. >> let me bring in democratic strategy bob shrum. good to have you on. how is this going to play out and maybe affect the mid terms? if the american people are against any kind of future intervention in iraq to correct what's going on over there, how can republicans go home and not be asked the question are you ready to send troops back to iraq? what about that? >> i think they will be. i think dick cheney being attacked by dick cheney is a boon for barack obama and democrats to make this case. cheney is the darth vader of american foreign policy except darth vader actually fought in star wars. he sits in air conditioned conference rooms and wants to sends others to fight and die in endless wars. his wall street journal op-ed is a tissue of lies, noz a consequential as the lies he told to get into iraq. it's one lie after another. maliki wouldn't sign a status of forces agreement. you know why? the iranians didn't want him to. why did the iranians have that kind of influence? because george bush and dick cheney took us into a war that removed one of the

joining me now, rapid response panel, anna logan, former representative, and bob shrum, democratic strategistkicked off a statewide college afford ability tour monday after signing the measure. trying she'll the fact the bill has a huge tie to immigration reform and count to want to get tied up with that and suffer political consequences. >> absolutely, trying to play both sides of the aisle here. he's also trying to appease the, you know, illegal immigrants trying to get a college education here, hispanics. they have a huge voting bloc, they do swing. he's trying to play both side of the aisle. he ran in 2010 with his tea party credentials, saying that he was going to crack down on arizona-style immigration bill. today a change of heart but his prir priority legislation, the dreamer bill, had to do all kinds of maneuver to get it out of the senate. he signs it quietly, legislators who carried the bill had to have the ceremonial bill signing without him there. it says to me he's trying to remain low but at the same time wants something to show for at the general election when he's going to ne