bob shrum, thank you very much for being with us. after hillary clinton said that today, i want to read to you just a portion of what the sanders camp put out within the last hour. they said, we expect voters in the remaining contests will disagree, as we do, with what she said. he said they say senator sanders is doing much better than hillary clinton against donald trump in national and state polls. it is clear that millions of americans have growing doubts about the clinton campaign. what do you make of what is going on in the sanders camp? >> well, it's not just the sanders camp. this is a kind of natural back and forth that goes on at the end of these primary periods where someone who is behind wants to keep making the case. we went through it in 2008, and some of what hillary clinton said was pretty tough, some of what barack obama said was pretty tough, but they managed to put things together afterwards. i think there was a basis for doing that here. i think we'll get to that point. but to expect someone who is still running i

ted kennedy and ht convention in new york turned out to be about the kennedys thanks in part to bob shrum who wrote one of the most memorable speeches ever for ted kennedy and it was kennedy's convention not the incumbent democratic president's convention. and, by the way, there was a republican who had been an actor who was not seen as very credible and so forth and so on, but the democratic party tore t itself apart and he won the election. this is the kind of thing that the democrats and hillary clinton have to try to avoid as long as bernie sanders doesn't have bob shrum writing his speech he'll be fine. >> i think you'll agree with me, chris, because we were both participants in this. the differences between carter and kennedy were much greater than the differences and in fact, they had not debated because carter would not debate and kennedy really thought he deserved a debate, they were much big differences than the differences you have between sanders and hillary clinton and i think it's more like 2008 and i think they're going to be able to make this thing up. i don't think it's t

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. ♪ joining us now from sunny los angeles, veteran consultant bob shrum.ople are panicking about the polls and the degree of disarray and dissension within your party. to be don't seems panic. why? >> first, the demographics strongly favored clinton. if you look at trump's ratings among young people, women, ispanics, african-americans, honestly have a hard time getting him over the hump to 1% of the vote. its characteristic to wring your hands. a lot of people are worried, probably more worried than they should be at this point. from trump. a tweet why not panic about that? that'se are signs abated. she herself sounds conciliatory. she is saying in one way over and over again that the things that unite us are stronger than what divide us. we have claire mccaskill saying nice things about bernie sanders. sharon brown during the same thing. the platform committee being reconstituted and sanders ppoint fivea members. i think there is an understanding on the clinton campaign's part that whatever frustrations you have, you need bernie sanders. you need to work

. ♪ ♪ mark: joining us now from sunny los angeles, veteran consultant bob shrum.lowing you over the last few days. a lot of democrats ask -- democrats are panicking about the bulls -- the polls and the degree of disarray and dissension within your party. your message seems to be don't panic. why? >> first, the demographics strongly favored clinton. if you look at trump's ratings among young people, women, hispanics, african-americans, i honestly have a hard time getting him over the hump to 50%-51% of the vote. a lot of people, and it is kind of a democratic characteristic to wring your hands. a lot of people are worried, probably more worried than they should be at this point. >> and i think you would agree do clinton real damage at this point. why not panic about that? >> there are signs that's abated. she herself sounds conciliatory. she is saying in one way over and over again that the things that unite us are stronger than what divide us. we have claire mccaskill saying nice things about bernie sanders and actually criticizing denver -- debbie wasserman schul