bob stevens, you know... greats. it was amazing.son i was asking about how you looked and how you saw yourself kind of physically as an actor was cos you have spoken a lot about luck. yes. was that luck, really? that he was on, apparently, on a trip round the reps in the country... ..to find the company that he wanted to create at the old vic to play but maybe you'd have become... somebody would have spotted you anyway. i don't know. i think there's talent. and i think there's luck. andzwjthtgut that luck.i . out, but nobody�*s seeing it. nobody�*s appreciating it. i still think somebody... been in the audience, or somebody would have i don't believe it. i think once you start... that you are talented, i think that's wrong. ithink... interesting. not to be... don't believe, "oh, god, i'm so good at this." and thereby maybe get better. "but it's a lovely world to be in, and i want to be "successful in that world." but it is a world that i feel absolutely at ease in. life it's going to be. how much of a struggle was it being gay at a

bob stevens you got my last name wrong and my first name wrong. but of course with the president i couldn't take moment to interrupt. there are a lot of pivotal moments that are described. your book, i mean, going way, way back long before we get to paris. indeed, you know, before copenhagen, that matter. and then durban, which very important. right. what came out of the durban conference, the parties. can you describe maybe just choose one or perhaps two, you know, pivotal moments in the negotiations that if it hadn't gone the way it did, it would have been quite different? well, i think actually you just you just touched on the two. the two camps that i would that i would think about and maybe just let me just back up for a second and give you very briefly, a sense of kind of the degree of difficulty in this dive. and. yeah, well, i'll just just start start with that, which is that that climate change negotiator phones are super hard because the climate changes caused by burning fossil fuels burning fossil fuels is how you run economies. and and