i'm joined by bob westphal, a republican advisor and lobbiest in d.c. and has worked as a fundraiser . perry throws his support to gingrich. does it matter now? >> not really. i think right now it's a bit of a sideshow in south carolina. it was big news for about five minutes today and then when the news on newt gingrich's marriage came out and with his second wife coming out and doing an abc interview tonight on national tv, it's sort of swamped the good news for newt. >> this has been the big story today, the big talker, but the fact is didn't we already know newt gingrich was not a master of the marital arts, so to speak? >> derek, all of us here in washington d.c. have known it for a long time. he's been married three times. those of us that worked in congress have known about his personal predilictions, but the country is learning that now. >> he's been on a surge in south carolina pulling within a couple point according to one poll of mitt romney. does this perhaps put the brakes on for him? >> that's a really good people. i talked to the mayor of