bob woodson joined me now.o ask why is the left so adamant in your mind, what is their goal about saturating our schools with this race obsession? >> they don't care about black people, they are doing this using the black experience and our birth defect of race is important to undermine the fundamental institutions of our society and they are doing this by promoting a false narrative. 1619 is a false narrative that paints america as a slave talk receipt and all whites benefit from racial privilege and white supremacy and therefore they must pay reparations and all black people are victims to be pitied and tampered and so what we did and they were using the issue of civil rights and injustice we organize 28 outstanding scholars and activists to offer a counter narrative to the lies and falsehoods being perpetrated in this publication. we give an inspiration for aspirational challenge to their assumption, the one quarter of blacks living in drug infested crime-ridden neighborhoods that this was a legacy of slaver

jesse: bob woodson has a new book out this week. "red, white and black."us in 30 seconds the problem with critical race theory being taught in class. >> critical race theory in the old days we cow it stereotyping. instead of saying all blacks have to live and eat and sleep and carry themselves in such a way, we are saying white people are stereotyped. they are guilty of supremacy and being privileged, and all white people are evil because of racism and all blacks are victims. that's simply put. it used to be called stereotyping. jesse: it's thought like that. it removes individualism. >> it used to be called stereotyping. jesse: i just started this book this morning and found a lot of great nuggets in here that i had no idea about. and i was a history major. it never trickled down to me, or maybe i missed that day in school. tell us about the things in your book that most people don't know about the history of race in the united states. the false history is the challenges facing large swaths of black americans today, out of wedlock births, the crime, viole

bob woodson is with us. that is quite a title, sir.ly from our schools, and if so why? >> first of all i'm a veteran of the civil rights movement. in fact i long for the old-fashioned bigotry because it was honest and external. but this new progressive bigotry has morphed into a parasite has gone internal, it is really very divisive. it is really trying to cure racism by teaching racism. it is demeaning to blacks. it is insulting, demeaning. blacks are being treated if we're exotic pets and people have to be trained about how to treat us and it is going to end up alienating children. they are going to be differences. they're going to be fights. they're going to be conflicts. we're creating a problem that does not exist. but it is, even a boy scouts have diversity badges. it has national security implications where our military is told america is a racist country. who wants to defend a country that has been defined as racist? so this is a crisis that we're confronting at the woodson center with our new essay, 1776. we're telling the acc

here to react, founder of the woodson center, bob woodson.ducers i wanted to read this. did you tweet the other day in response to inn rim kennedy, you said black people should not be wrongly stereotyped i based on actions of some. america is not a racist nation. the heart a beat of racism is animosity and victim hood that your agenda pushes. you teach helplessness, we teach hopefulness. bob bob woodson, what an incredible message that highlights the real divide in this cup right now. >> i think really, i'm a veteran of the civil rights movement, and in one sense i prefer old-fashioned bigotry that's obvious in its intentions. but this new progressive bill osly is less -- bigotry is much more insidious because it's really planting the seeds of black self-doubt and self-destruction. and it is wreaking havoc in our communities. will: right. >> so what we're saying is blacks are not defined by slavery or jim crow, that the 9eéc2

she joins us alongside bob woodson the woodson center founder with reaction.n the community when we're killed by people who look like us. >> yes, yes. and that's the problem. too often have a police shooting and people want to go up in arms and in a community 10 people have shot us and no one want to discuss and do anything about it. first of all my heart goes out to the premium mom before me. i feel your pain. we have the same issue. but they have should have dealt with the advocacy, the heal the love for those mothers first before anything occurred other than rioting in the street. lawrence: bob, it seems that this conversation has been a competitive one. either you are with the mothers that have been killed by the police by the kids killed by the police or with the been killed by mothers who look like us. you have a balanced message. you are for it all. you want justice for everyone in every situation. >> that's correct. lawrence: bob you, i want to go to you. critical of the response of this. no longer is there a conservative response. you have one. >> abs

let's bring in the founder of the woodson center bob woodson joins us from suburban, washington.axpayer funded billboards? >> well, it goes beyond just the issue of health. it's really insulting and demeaning, an example of progressive bigotry on steroids. the suggestion that blacks the control and destiny of their children are determined what might america does or does not do is really insulting. if white america all went to canada and europe tomorrow, it would not secure the safety and well-being of those children. we have had 12 children under the age of 13 murdered on our streets since george floyd died. 11-month-old deor harris in syracuse shot to death in her car with her mother. a young man elijah la france in florida, shot to death in his fourth birthday party in his home. these problems will not be solved by ending racism. and so it's really a deception, it the patronizing and demeaning and everyone should be outraged by this. steve: just the fact that it could actually discourage expectant mothers from getting proper medical care, that is very disturbing. we did reach o

i think it was last weekend here on "fox & friends" we had bob woodson on the show and he is opposed legislature level at the statewide, rather parents and school districts should be the ones directly addressing this how do we directly address this state sponsored racism that's making its way into our schools? >> yeah, i think it's a great question. first and foremost, i don't believe there should be a federal department of education. there shouldn't even be that. i do think the legislature can pass a resolution. i think that's representation of the people of utah that resolution did pass suggesting that all people are created equal and they should be judged by their character, not the color of their skin. i think that's a very reasonable position to take. but, you are right, you know, in utah, we have 29 counties but 40 different school districts and they are going to have these debates. but, the way it's been defined, and it moves. it bobs, it weaves, but the way this critical race theory is defined i think is toxic. i don't think it's right. i don't think it's accurate. but it wil