but at some point i think bob woodward is not obtuse.he's covered most of the agencies in washington. he's written scores of best-selling books. he had to realize, especially after the fbi documents became available in about 1992, that felt had sold him a bill of goods, that the fbi's investigation hadn't been stymied or thwarted by the nixon white house. that in fact it was the fullest investigation since the assassination of president kennedy. and that felt's refusal to come forward and come out of the shadows and acknowledge the acclaim that was supposedly being heaped on deep throat, the reason for that was that felt knew that if he did come forward and his actions were scrutinized and enough people from then were still around, he couldn't withstand the scrutiny because his reasons for leaking would be exposed. what actually happened is that woodward and bernstein replicated the fbi's investigation. the fbi

"washington post" associate editor bob woodward and democratic strategist hilary rosen. also this morning, a few minutes with bob costas of nbc sports, on the penn state sex abuse scandal. after this week's devastating report about who knew what, and when. >>> good morning. well you knew it was going to get nasty and here we are in this presidential fight. really the choice is by the fall, is this going to be a campaign that turns on the obama economy? or mitt romney's business record? a week ago we were talking about a bad jobs report for the president. this week, because of the obama team going on the offensive, it's all about romney's bain record. and the president is staying with it on the campaign trail yesterday in virginia. >> he invested companies that have been called pioneers of outsourcing. i don't want a pioneer in outsourcing. i want some insourcing. >> the response now, the adviser of the romney campaign ed gillespie. good to have you back. >> thanks for having me. >> so this period of time that matters, 1999 to 2001, and the question of mitt romney's tenure

karl bernstein and bob woodward in the summer and fall of 1972 kept the watergate story alive. they have been digging hard. they, in fact, brought out information about the dirty tricks operation. much of this was a product of their own investigative work. some of it was what they were being told by mark felt, the associate director of the fbi who was known as deep throat and his identity has been named, not the -- the undercover source in 2005. you have a lot going on. the senate gets into the act. and when the senate starts to investigate, a couple of things happen. first of all, john dean becomes the first insider to claim that the president was involved in the coverup. up to this point nobody has said that with any credibility. and he's going to do it on tv because the senate has decided to televise the watergate hearings. so dean's testimony is extraordinarily important and you ckacan watch sort of a dramc moment when the senator howard baker who represents the minority asks dean the all important question. >> the question as i hope not impobably narrow, but your testimony

so let me introduce bob woodward and carl bernstein. >> you're good. we want you to come up at the very end for a picture. so, stay close. >> how is it that you're writing together again? what kind of tensions? >> can you all hear now? i said it felt good. it was the usual tensions. and it worked creatively, i think. at one point i used the word cravin in a line, in a paragraph and woodward call immediate and said you can't put that in there. we fought over that a little bit, but it worked. a kind of complimentary process. >> why did it work from the beginning? >> because we had a different emphasis working. i don't know. maybe gordon libby -- waiting for his moment. we just look at the world a little differently. there was a sense of loving reporting. we were both unmarried, very young. we had the running room from the editors and ben bradley, keep going at this story. don't give it up. and that is -- bud krogh was talking about the liberating experience of going to jail. it's liberating to work for bradley. it's the opposite of jail. >> more about th

and bob woodward, the idea of when he was at bain. perhaps less material than whether, you know, somebody who was in private equity will or will not stand behind some of, you know, decisions that are made in the global economy. including outsourcing. as much as it gets uncomfortable and political campaigns. >> well, mike murphy is right. you would have to fire everyone in the congress, and all ceos. because outsourcing is a reality. i think ron kessler, the fact checker of "the washington post," has done excavation here and demonstrated pretty conclusively that romney didn't have his fingerprints on this particular period. and people who were relying on s.e.c. documents know the value of s.e.c. documents. i mean, they are often camouflages for what's really going on. so that's not really the issue. i think the issue here is is about all this money, personal money, that romney has, that we don't really know what the trustee is doing, and that's a couple of hundred million dollars -- and that's a lot of money. people who worked hard to

. >> reporter: the "washington post's" bob woodward agrees citing the fact checker. >> i think the fact checker of the "washington post" did extra vision here and demonstrated that romney didn't have his fingerprints on this particular period. >> reporter: bain is fair game because it's reflective of his core principles. republicans warn of voter backlash. >> remember who's up for grabs in this election. independent voters. they were drawn to obama in 2008. because he was going to change politics and raise and elevate the political discourse, this is gutter politics. >> reporter: most believe the cooler temperatures of fall will see debate over the real issues return. melanie all all wick, fox 5 morning news. >>> who kidnapped who americans will take more hostages if police don't release the uncle from prison. a 61-year-old boston area reverend and a member of his church were abducted friday in a bus loaded with dozens of other tourists. it happens along a major road. the kidnapper plans to use them as leverages to free his uncle. >> reporter: flush. >> i think the egyptian government h

people wanted to read it at that mont >> the people reporting were bob woodward and carl bernstein. >> usually if you have a story, it isn't exclusive for very long because everybody else jumps on it. but with watergate, i thought, if this is so great, where the hell is everybody else? >> there was this lull. the story would just disappear and nothing would happen and then woodward and bernstein would write a piece and it would flare up. >> no known reporter from the "washington post" is ever to be in the white house. is that clear? >> absolutely. >> never in the white house, no church service. >> what we did was a way to keep the story alive when they were trying to hush it up. >> i had lunch with katherine graham and she asked, when is the whole story going to come out? i said, because bob and carl kept it so concealed, maybe never. she said, in a very pained way, never? don't tell me never. to have the boss, the publisher, understand what we're doing and not just backing it but saying, go all the way. do not give up on this story, don't tell me that. and we really covered this like

he supposedly said that to bob woodward, that he was disturbed by the case that was presented in this courtroom, and he meted out heavy sentences as a result. it probably influenced the senate to conduct an investigation, although of course the senate was dominated by democrats. and they might have well conducted an investigation even if there had been less press coverage. but the fact is since the "post" raised a lot of unanswered questions, it undoubtedly encouraged the senators -- i mean, there's an old saying in washington -- the most dangerous place is between the camera and a senator. and probably the most important thing is the coverage protected the prosecutors as they were investigating the case against the burglars. it meant that when they wanted to depose john mitchell, a former attorney general and the former chairman of the committee to re-elect the president, there was never any question about whether they could do that. so it insulated the prosecutors from any political influence. and that was a very important role. but who really cracked the cover-up? it wasn't the "wa

sanger's book but bob woodward's book, the first two chapters are classified top secret code word. i thought okay, if i were doing the investigation, i would say sis row's great question. who benefits? whose position is enhanced by the leaks? >> i know who was not benefited by it? that is the navy s.e.a.l.s involved in the operations and their families. i know that those professionals who were working with us in the area of cyber security are not benefited by this. i know that the national security interest of the united states is -- are not benefited by this. and so we ought to be looking at what is benefited by this. >> gentleman's time has expire, the gentlemen from virginia, mr. scott. >> in five minutes, you went through the definition of the offense willfully delivering or transmitting any information related to the national defense to any person not entitled to receive it if the official has reason to believe that the information could be used to injure the united states to the advantage of any other country. a lot of words in there that are subject to interpretation. one is

incestuous relationship with bob woodward.had a discussion with governor romney. i find that extremely disturbing. in the weeks we have seen now are unprecedented. look what happened redid the leaks we have seen now are unprecedented. did they want this week may? -- leak made? >> it is routine. it happens every day. >> you are saying that the israelis like it? >> and they do not like it but they live with it. >> these and not come from israel and you know it. maybe he did classified some things that the last minute. the president picking targets was highly classified. the fact that we engaged in the cyber attacks, even the meetings with senior pakistani officials and of a dhabi -- abu dhabi hurts america. he should have instructed them to say they should all way confidentialityconfidentiall agreement they did. he should be leaning with congress's efforts to get to the bottom of it. dianne feinstein made a statement and backed it off. i believe every reporter in this town knows one of the sources. >> it will probably save the g

that mitt romney was equally disturbed when the bush white house leaked classified information to bob woodwardwhen he was writing his four books about the iraq and afghanistan war including interviews with the president to respect a don't know if the relationship with bob woodward in these books would come up and i've been reading this ever since i was in school in the watergate days. i've never had a discussion with governor romney, but i find that extremely disturbing. but the leaks that we have seen now are unprecedented. look what happened to israel that was a part of the cyber engagement with iran. do they want this made? >> i've worked in israel. the week's not happening in the government, that's routine. it happens every day. >> let me parcel this. so you are saying that the israelis like the fact -- >> they don't like it but they live with it. >> they didn't come from israel and you know it, and the president was first and very careful when he said i'm so offended. well, maybe he declassified some of the things of the last minute. the fact is the president picking targets which was hig

romney was equally disturbed when the bush white house leaked googles of classified information to bob woodward when he was riding his four books about the iraq and afghan war, including interviews with the president? >> i don't understand the administration's incestuous relationship with wallboard or in these books that come out. i have been reading this ever since i was in school in the watergate days. i have never had discussion with governor romney, but i find that extremely disturbing, too. but the leaks we have seen now are unprecedented. look what happened to israel that was part of the cyber engagement with iran. did they want this leak made? >> i have worked in israel. the idea of leaks not happening in the israeli government, that is routine. happens every day. >> let me just parts this then. you are saying the israelis like the fact -- these leaks did not come from israel, and you know it. maybe he'd be classified something that the last minute. the fact is, the president picking targets for the drones, that was highly classified. the fact that we engage in the cyber attacks, even th

. >> did you deal with woodward or bernstein? >> rarely. >> bob came and told me bs you know, he whispered those things in my ear and i said i have no idea what he's talking about. so he went away. i might have asked mary. shefgs a great reporter in her time. >> these two investigative reporters, i grew to like dan shore a lot. but there's a whole group of jack nelson, who was a great civil rights group. it wound up there was a generation of reporters -- bill cotta cottage, jack nelson and others who went south in the -- in those early '60s and covered the civil rights movement who then became bureau chiefs. those are the people who you have a great rapport with. but the point is, it's not -- that's irrelevant. what's irrelevant is you had to keep the public informed as you moved along. the decision not to investigate. to actually base the whole proceeding on the work doenl by the water gate special prosecution for us. >> i don't know how -- remember, that was a decision made. that was a decision made. i mean, i was sitting there, but sort of that

>> i don't understand the administration's incestuous with bob woodward. i've been reading this ever since the watergate days. i haven't ever had a discussion with governor romney, but i find that extremely disturbing, too. but the leaks we have seen our unprecedented. look what happened to israel that was part of the cyberengagement with iran. do they want this clique made? >> i worked in israel. the idea of leaks not have been in the israeli government. that's routine. it happens every day. >> let me just parse. >> you say that the israelis like the fact? >> these leaks didn't come from israel and you know what. the president was very careful when he said i'm so offended. we didn't know a legal leaks. we've declassified things at the last minute. the fact days the president picking targets for jones, was highly classified. the fact that we engaged in the cyberattacks coming events and meetings with senior pakistani officials in abu dhabi heard american security. the president should take him into a special counsel, p. should've instructed everyone everyo

romney was equally disturbed when the bush white house leaked googles of classified information to bob woodward when he was riding his four books about the iraq and afghan war, including interviews with the president? >> i don't understand the administration's incestuous relationship with wallboard or in these books that come out. i have been reading this ever since i was in school in the watergate days. i have never had discussion with governor romney, but i find that extremely disturbing, too. but the leaks we have seen now are unprecedented. look what happened to israel that was part of the cyber engagement with iran. did they want this leak made? >> i have worked in israel. the idea of leaks not happening in the israeli government, that is routine. happens every day. >> let me just parse this then. you are saying the israelis like the fact -- these leaks did not come from israel, and you know it. maybe he'd be classified something that the last minute. the fact is, the president picking targets for the drones, that was highly classified. the fact that we engage in the cyber attacks, even th