legendary journalist bob woodward complained about the heavy-handed treatment he's been getting from the white house. when he does a report that they don't like. what's the deal, charlie? is there contempt for the media in the white house? >> oh, i think that, greg, without any doubt there is a deep contempt for the media. and part of it has to do with the fact that despite the funny clip that you showed where president obama promised an openness, as open as the great plains, you know, the truth of the matter is, going back to his campaigns, you know, his campaigns and his white house, from the beginning, have been very, very -- held a firm grip on the media. the problem has been, obviously there are those of us who have complained about it from the beginning, but a lot of people in the media have gone along with it when they were like that. and the white house came to realize that they could actually get away with it. and they did get away with it. and they have gotten away with it. and i think it's very much morphed them into this bizarre administration where it really is like a st

and the bob woodward throwaway, i think, has a lot of merit. this is the first time you've seen a true bipartisan deal of any kind in the congress, in the bhaum obama era. this is the first time. i know it's small pate toes, but it's the first time. since the president wasn't involved, people were able to do that. final vote, they got nine or ten republicans. i give you the last word, steve mcmahon. it's a chicken that's come home to roost. >> listen, let's not pretend like the president was sitting there designing the website. pst not a managerial indictment of the president. last january, it was mitch mcconnell and joe biden who did it. so the administration jumps in when they have to. they don't jump in every single time. finally, let's not forget the republicans' proclivity which we might see again as early as february to stick a gun in their mouths and shoot their heads off and when they start negotiating over the debt ceiling, are we going to raise the debt ceiling or default on our debts, and they start trying to hold the president hosta

has not really military espionage it's political control there was a conversation between bob woodward has for years we remember from watergate and andrea mitchell that was on the whip about how the mind control technology was used during the surge in iraq. and the way they stumbled onto this they mentioned. they happened upon one of the members of the joint chiefs of staff. and they said they heard of this type of thing used during the surge in the united states and. bill i don't know if. it want to find out more about it. jesse ventura yeah that's ok thank you bill yeah justin sure has been on our program i you know any proudly proclaims is it here and it's a conspiracy theories i really think that the n.s.a. i got a bureaucracy out of control be got seventy percent of the budget going to private contractors so it's like the private prison industry you know they're making business for themselves i personally believe that you're seeing you know good intentions gone wrong and you're seeing all these predators who have come in and these private contractors that's it for your take my tak

you see paul ryan going around the country with bob woodward. see rand paul going to detroit. >> you mean bob woodson. >> bob woodson, sorry. >> you see an effort you think on the part of the g.o.p. to do outreach. orlando, you are in charge, in fact, of doing that very job for the republican national committee, outreach to the black community. i think a lot of people seeing the two of you seeing here orlando would say how come these two young black men are republicans. why are you republican? >> i'm republican because the republican party, we care about people and we care about improving people's lives. and one thing that i want to see one thing i definitely want to see is a thriving black community. in order to have that you need a few things. you need a community that's built on a foundation where we revive the entrepreneurial spirit, where we focus on educating our youth. where we are focused on having strong moral principles and mutual assistance. these are things that republicans stand for. these are things that i believe would attract blac

brit hume, julie pace, bill cristol, and bob woodward.peaker boehner seems to have gone out of his way this week to hammer some groups, and he says those groups are using their republican members to build organizations and raise money. >> there is a war within the republican party and there is a certain set of outside groups that have opposed so many things that the republicans have tried to do, and actually pass, and who are satisfied with nothing that you could ever get through the senate or past the president. and there is enough people in the country with money in their pockets that went to spend on politics that keep these groups flush as long as they keep up their opposition and it's worked very well for them. >> is it helpful for boehner to take them on? >> i think it may imbolden the caucus. he was not strong enough in the negotiations that led to the shut down. he let them have their way and they tried this defund strategy that led to a shut down. he feared it would be unpopular, and it was, and that they would get nothing out of

covers the white house for the associated press, and bill kristol of the weekly standard, and bob woodwardpeaker boehner seemed to go out of his way this week to hammer out the conservative groups from the outside opposed the budget deal. he says that those groups are using his republican members to build their organizations and raise money. what is going on here? >> there is a war in the republican party. there is a certain set of outside groups which have opposed so many things that the republicans have tried to do and actually pass and who are satisfied with nothing that you could ever get through the senate or pass through the president and enough people with money in their politics who want to spend money on politics who want to keep up the opposition. it has, worked well. >> is it helpful for speaker boehner to take them on? >> it may embolden his caucus. he was not strong enough before the shutdown and he let them have their way. he feared it would be unpopular as it was and they would get nothing, which is exactly what happened. a lost his members learned thai lesson and now he is

pace who covers the white house for the associated press, bill cristo of the weekly standard and bob woodward from the "washington post." we talked with paul ryan and speaker boehner seemed to go out of his way to hammer these groups that from the outside oppose the budget deal. he says those groups are using his republican members to build their organizations and raise money. what has gone on here? >> there is a war within the republican party. there is a certain set of outside groups which have opposed so many things that the republicans have tried to do and actually pass and who are satisfied with nothing is that you could ever get through the house or the senate. there is enough with money in their pockets who will keep these groups flush as long as they keep up their opposition. it has, woulded well for them and they have had -- it has worked for them. >> it is good for him to take them on? >> it may em bolden his caucus to some extent. he was not strong enough to do that during the round of negotiations that lead to the shutdown. he let them have their way. they tried this de fund strat

>> blake, i'm going to ask you, to answer the question, but bob woodward, famed journalist, "the washington said the reason this deal got done is because barack obama was not part of t do you agree with that? >> i think it's possible. when barack obama is involved, it's -- >> it automatically goes sour. >> it's toxic with the republicans. >> toxic for obama, for democrat. >> whatever the opposite of catnip is, that's what it is for republicans. but to, you know, be straight here, i'm going to agree with kelly ann on what you said before. i think paul ryan did the republican party a great service by avoiding a shutdown. he was able to broker a deal that was pretty decent for republicans. democrats are not thrilled with this deal. they wish unemployment insurance was extended. >> in a sense, it's a very interesting point. i've written about this. he didn't really want to go there, i understand, but the democrats wanted to eliminate sequester, so they had to selling for 75%. the democrats wanted big tax increases for corporate loop holes, and the democrats at the last mint wanted unemployment

remember, bob woodward was the first to do this with the brethren, which to shock the supreme court with a lot of inside stuff about how things happened there, and this is to woodward's standard operating agreement that he has with his sources in his several books is right about the obama white house, or the books he wrote about military. his ground rules are that evil into the dim, but they can't -- material can't be used until the book comes out. he can't, in other words, rush something into his "washington post" column. so i think when you approach a justice that way, and remember, because it's a book you're not going to be writing about a decision that hasn't come out yet so you're writing about the past, hopeless understand that. one of the things that he charts in the book you're talking about is the supreme court's very important decision on whether labor unions and corporations can use their own money as opposed to setting up packs, but use their own money to spend independent of candidates to support a cat or a political party. the so called citizens united decision. citizens un

so, i think ryan won, but as bob woodward explains, on sunday, he may have had some help. take a listen to this. >> i think this budget deal worked, quite frankly. let's go right to the center of this. because obama was not part of the negotiations. he is not a good negotiator. >> all right. great lead-in. joining us now, columbia university associate professor dorian warren and bill kristol, founder and editor of "the weekly standard" among his many credits. you were on set when woodward said that, weren't you? >> sitting right next to him. i told him to say it. in the commercial break. bob has always turned to me and said, what should i say next? take a cheap shot at obamacare. why not, right? >> how much truth is this? obama has to be the worst negotiator probably in the hit history of the white house or one of them. how much truth is there to this? >> he considers himself above negotiating, perhaps. you know, look, that's what congressmen and senators do, what presidents do sometimes. i think paul ryan, what you said earlier is right. paul ryan did a service for the re

bob woodward writes a book and wants to go on "60 minutes" first. >> it's by far the highest rated news program on american television. >> it's one of the greatest news shows in the history of television why i hold it to such a high standard. >> there's a difference between giving a celebrity releasing a movie, 12-minute segments. these are long segments. they have time to press these people. when a secretive person -- journalist would kill to get a minute let alone the access he had and he got to promote this drone story that was on everywhere on cyber-monday right as people are going to turn to amazon. >> people were on twitter, the more cynical people who watch "60 minutes" and snark at it were snarking at the amazon piece until the drone thing happened and then they were wowed by it because it was a great reveal. >> i think look at what happened this last week. we had three different reports about the nsa. "60 minutes," we had a federal judge, and we had a white house panel, right? so three of the four branches of government told you something about the nsa and unfortunately the one

>> guest: he is on a par with bob woodward and carl bernstein. c-span: got a quote in the book that he said something to a woman by the name of leslie bennett. who is she? >> guest: leslie had just been hired as a reporter for "the new york times." she'd come in from the philadelphia bulletin after many years as a reporter if philadelphia. c-span: cy hirsh wrote the my lie massacre story. >> guest: not for the times, he was working if for an independent. c-span: he said you know perfectly well you never would have been hired if it hadn't been for the women's suit, don't you? >> guest: uh-huh. leslie bennetts was hired in 1978. it is ahazing the number of l talented women who were hired in 1978 which was the year that the lawsuit against the times for sex discrimination was settled in favor of the women who had brought the suit. there's a whole class of 1978, i found out. and immediately thereafter. the times began hiring more women reporters particularly because they're more visible because of their bylines, began hiring her women as soon as we c

bob woodward says the reason this got done is the president wasn't involved.e's a lousy negotiator. why do you think that plays int overall narrative? >> there is some truth to that. i don't know about the lousy negotiator part. you talk to some close friends, they say he has not excelled. he doesn't bring people together, twist arms, sweeten the deal and get it done. at one point patty murray leading negotiators, she had conversations with the president and his team and they said, what can we do? she said, "back off. that's what you can do. let me do this. are you not trusted up here. i am. i can get this done." >> and she did. she got it done. we hope they all have a happy holiday season after the vote. >> we will see if something more comes from it. i am skeptical of that. >> there is a reason to be skeptical. it's called history and many years of reporting. >> you have to be hopeful, encourage them. my wife is telling me about what to do with the kid,ing a sen chu what it the positive. >> they say you need to treat lawmakers as they were children. >> if th

bob woodward said one of the reasons a deal was struck is because president obama was not involved. he said every time he gets involved things seem to divide. >> a majority of americans want to be real with them. i think a broken promise is a big deal to us. we want it kept. >> if it is a broken promise that's one thing. but if it's a lie, that's even worse. hate to end on that downer note. >> that's the way it is, baby. >> you were complaining yesterday we had not put the trees yet. we were going to put them up today, a week away from christmas. hope you're happy. >> i like what the elves did. i like the green and the green. >> like the way we decked out the pillows. >> i'm convinced the pillows are matched to your dress every day. and i always say no, mom, it's just multiple color pillows. it looks great. good morning to you all. hope you're off to a great day. ten minutes after the hour. we have a dramatic scene unfolding on sun rise highway in long island in brian's neck of the woods. look at this new video coming in to "fox & friends." a truck carrying fuel hits a car, flips ov