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good to have you all on board today. >> so bob woodward.ave to give every president going back to bill clinton an a for effort and an f for results. bill clinton in 1994 sent jimmy carter over to negotiate a deal. jimmy carter ended up winning the nobel peace prize for that work but jimmy carter and george w. bush and bill clinton and barack obama all were just unable to come up with a deal the north koreans would keep. here we have donald trump stumbling in -- >> it may be stumbling, it may not. you have to talk. what's the alternative? if you dig into this -- i'm doing a book on trump and there's more at work -- you're smirking. >> i'm smirking. keep going, bob, and i'll tell you why. >> there are things that can be done. for instance it's being talked talked about at high levels that their confidence-building measures can take place between the united states and north korea that will lay a foundation. i'm not saying it will work and these things have sort of -- are dangerous but the thing the north koreans hate the motion are military ex

in bob woodward's book the agenda, he had a decision to go with deficit spending or pay-as-you-go. both woodward and greenspan said it was very good policy by bill clinton. he adhered to the pay-as-you-go legislation and raised our taxes in 1993. he wanted more social services. this had an unbelievable effect on the economy. even though we raised taxes, he set the tax rate for the eight years of his presidency. we ran our first register plus -- first budget surplus. it was the first time we had a budget surplus since 1969. the debate that al gore was having with then governor bush was what to do with the cbo estimate of the $5.7 trillion surplus. bush wanted to give it back in tax cuts. gore wanted to give it out in infrastructure spending. the election came out -- and more systemic, because of 9/11, bush had signed a tax cut prior to that, the deficit spending really started at this level in the bush administration. that is great irony because he is a republican. that is probably too long-winded, what i want to tell you where we are and how we got there. that is why we are where w

i am thinking to myself i walked into all the president's men and i am bob woodward and the pulitzer prize in my back pocket. i am so excited. i called my boss and you won't believe, didn't sleep at all that night. the next morning totally amped up, and i got another text message, i can't do it. my wife found my phone, took my phone away and won't let me do it. and a pretty good lawyer, kind of wisely -- and i was being a little too persistent, and this is sarah, tom's wife, his life is on the line. if you leave him alone he will talk to you. at this point, from tom hayes, in the justice department, no one knows the full story, that is an exclamatory thing. he hadn't said a word. this is, in journalist terms a nice scoop ahead and i was feeling good about myself. i started -- my boss is a real pain, bruce orwell, one of the best editors i ever had, kept telling me to go back and try again and made it clear he wanted to be left alone. it came time, i told tom i have a few fact checking questions but not respond again, i would love to help you. my wife will literally kill me. this is s

it is bob woodward talked about how they are unhinged, matt.w it was bad during the bush years, poor ari, i wouldn't want his job i really wouldn't want sarah huckabee's job now or press job for that matter. >> that's okay. i console her every evening and she is proud of what she does. at the end of the george w. bush administration he was obviously pretty low in the polls and they were calling him every name in the book. bush lied, people died. warmonger, racist. you name it, they called him that. it's what liberals do with every single republican. the difference with donald trump is they just started off with all these terrible slanderous terms and john bolton is now having to undergo this as well. and i actually think, sean, i'm hopeful. the american people see through this. the american people they have air in their lungs. they feel hope. they like the agenda. and this is something that, you know, gives the american people hope that someone is going to stand up and fight. >> sean: i want to fill in for sarah huckabee sanders one day. just o

it is bob woodward talked about how they are unhinged, matt.as bad during the bush years, poor ari, i wouldn't want his job i really wouldn't want sarah huckabee's job now or press job for that matter. >> that's okay. i console her every evening and she is proud of what she does. at the end of the george w. bush administration he was obviously pretty low in the polls and they were calling him every name in the book. bush lied, people died. warmonger, racist. you name it, they called him that. it's what liberals do with every single republican. the difference with donald trump is they just started off with all these terrible slanderous terms and john bolton is now having to undergo this as well. and i actually think, sean, i'm hopeful. the american people see through this. the american people they have air in their lungs. they feel hope. they like the agenda. and this is something that, you know, gives the american people hope that someone is going to stand up and fight. >> sean: i want to fill in for sarah huckabee sanders one day. just one. i

this life with how much i dime like pat nixon, a wonderful, sarcastic sense of humor, a piece in bob woodward's latest book about nixon on the helicopter ride coming back from camp david and reaching out and putting his hand on knee or the thigh of one her his secretaries and it's not a harvey weinstein, sound more like somebody wants to get some kind of human contact into his life. there was one alleged mistress he had that -- the relationship was serious enough the cia investigated it because she was a hong kong hostess at the hong kong hilton and worried she was an agent for the red chinese. so you have a cia investigation -- he was not president at the time -- of richmond -- richmond richard nixon and a leak "the new york times" publish surprise surprise -- and a story about richard nixon having an affair with a red chinese spy. he had a basic awkwardness with all human contact and probably his sexuality or sexual relations with women throughout his life reflected that to some extent. >> yes, sir. >> so, i've encounters darpa in my day job and epitomizes the industrial cop complex and eisen

here's what watergate reporters bob woodward and carl bernstein had to say in our last hour. >> theretext that people in the white house will say to you, it is unclear to them whether donald trump can effectively govern, whether he's capable of it in terms of his own abilities, conduct, and whether or not things have gotten to the point where the wheels are coming off of this presidency. we don't know that, but certainly people in the white house are openly, with each other and with journalists, raising those kinds of questions. >> it's not clear who has authority or what authority. >> back now with our panel, joining us at the table, carrie cordero, jen sauk ki, and mike shields. mike, for this white house, i mean hope hicks as we've been saying was about as close to the president as anybody. >> yeah, she goes back -- pre-dates everyone on the campaign and worked for the trump family before she got involved in this. sort of a unique person in that regard because she wasn't political. my guess is she will continue to be close to the president. i think this is like a family member and