bob woodward is back with me.h his legendary partner from the days of the washington post, carl bernstein. bob, this is something i've never heard you say in decades of reading and watching you, that one individual should not be president, poses a threat to the presidency, why is donald trump such a unique threat that he's causing you to issue this warning? >> well, first of all, he does not understand democracy. the country we have, the united states, was one of the rare countries formed on an idea. and that idea is democracy. he does not understand that the january 6th committee has proven that. he does not understand that he's got to take care of the people, he's got to give them advice, warning, and he did not do this. carl and i have been talking about this for 50 years since the nixon case. >> carl, what's your take on bob's work here? obviously, and the warning he's issuing. >> this is a level of transgression by a president of the united states that is unique in our history. and that the power of listening

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have a listen to it first. >> i'll tell you what, if bob woodward is not going to tell a story authentick, he's not watching us. >> yeah, bob. >> i think he's watching, guys. >> okay, fine, come on. >> say hello. >> look, there's also an alarming new study we're got to talk about next about the connection between hair straightening products and an increased risk of cancer. and black women may be most at risk. we'll explain this important story, next. born in 1847, formally enslaved, started buying land, was in the house of representatives. finding out this family history, these things become anchors for your soul. scout is protected by simparica trio, and he's in it to win it. simparica trio is the first and only chew with triple protection. oh, fleas and ticks ♪ intestinal worms... wow heartworm disease, no problem with simarica trio. this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. for winning protection. go with simparica trio. well, there's a new study by the national institute of hea

kudos to bob woodward for that. as jamie pointed out in her piece, when she was introducing this, none of this has been verified. trump's hyperbole about, we create the biggest, baddest weapon system that nobody knows about. it might not even exist. we don't know. this president is known to have a little bit of hyperbole, as you know, anderson. i would not take any of it as fact. >> it's rare for the president of the united states to be the guy in the bar bragging about how big his weapon system is. you know? >> [laughs] you remember -- you remember the comments to kim jong-un, my button is bigger than his by. you remember that? >> this may shed some light on why those documents went to mar-a-lago. why did he want to keep some of these things? we don't know the answer to that. we really don't. but if you listen to these tapes, it may be, one of the reasons, let's say, that he just likes to brag a lot. and so he likes to pull out the love letters from kim jong-un, as he did for bob woodward. maybe that is the reason

everybody knows bob woodward is writing a book and everything you say to bob woodward is on the record but people just spill their guts to bob woodward. so kudos for that. but as jamie pointed out in her piece when she was introducing this, none of this has been verified. trump said some hyperbolye there, we created the biggest baddest weapon system that nobody knows about. we don't know that. this president is known to have a little bit of h -- >> it's rare for the president of the united states to be the guy in the bar bragging about how big his weapons system is. there's plenty of presidents that had big weapon systems and not bragged about it. >> yeah but you remember the comment to kim jong un, my button is bigger than his button. do you remember that? >> this may shed some light on why those documents went. why did he want to keep some of these things? we don't know the answer to that. we really don't. but if you listen to these tapes. one of the reasons may be that he just likes to brag a lot so he likes to pull out the love letter from kim jong un. this could be one of them. >>

that's probably why your bob woodward.at's funnier exchange. >> he is bob order though. i mean, the idea of -- i'm still going back to this point, i'm always a little bit tickled about just how open and accommodating people are with journalist who clearly are going to be frank a story that's going to be hopefully objective and not have yet smelling like roses. >> a couple things i've learned about bob woodward over the years, he does not give up. he will come and knock on your door at 10:00 at night. he also talks to so many people that when he shows up, he has the receipts even before he starts. he says, well you said this man. and so, people really want to talk to him to make sure they get their side of the story. >> i feel for jayden exchange, because he does not know whose boss is anymore. i get the impression that president trump is like today you work with the secretary of state, today you work with bob woodward, today you work for a vodka. and he's just long suffering jarrett having to do for whatever you had to do.

powering possibilities. ™ >>> cnn has exclusively obtained a copy of journalist bob woodward's audio ght kushner to help woodward set up interviews with other people in the white house. >> hello. >> jared, bob woodward. how are you? >> good. how are you? >> did you hear what he said? i'm going to come see you. we have a date scheduled, i think, next week. then you're going to help me with some of these other people i want to talk to. is that -- >> perfect. what i'll do is make a list of other people. what i heard from the president is that i now work for you. i will make myself available around that schedule and i will make sure i get you a good list. i'll come up with my list. if you come with your list of wants, i'll work to make it all happen. >> i want you to know i have no illusions that you work for me. i know you work for ivanka, right? >> okay, fine. you get it. you get it. that's probably why you're bob woodward. that's true. >> reporter: john, one of the few times we hear from jared kushner. i think what's most interesting about the book, a lot of this news was broken in bob

bob woodward, the new audio book is the trump tapes. thank you bob. >> thank you. >> coming, up the senate campaign debate in pennsylvania tonight, reveal that trump's candidate, mehmet oz, believes the question of abortion should be decided by women, her doctor, and local elected officials, that's what he actually said, while john fetterman shed said -- united states and. that's up next. that's up next ression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren'

why dud bobbed woodward put this out?s own words, and and i know bob has said this himself, it is, it's just totally different than reading it. it is sort of funny -- howard: yeah. trump saids woodward has no right to put out these tapes, but these were all on the record interviews. so why shouldn't we be able to hear trump's voice in a way with, you know? he's his own best salesman. >> of course. and he's his own, depending on how you look at it, worst enemy. donald trump loves the media, and the media loves donald trump, and they hate each other too. it's sort of a sadomasochist sadomasochistic interview. why does he call bob woodward on his cell phone to continue these conversations after he read the first book? he does it because he wants to control the narrative, he loves the media and wants to, obviously, get his best foot forward, and i think he thinks he's business -- his best advocate. obviously, bob woodward's going to put out, it's all on the record, and it just goes to show, to shine a light on what this trump

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bob woodward is tanding by live. we'll discuss in a few moment. is tom foreman with more on the very revealing tapes. >> mr. woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> reporter: the calls came at all hours on all subjects. >> nobody is tougher than me. you asked me about impeachment and you act like you just won the tucking race. >> sometimes bragging. >> i have a reputation of not willing to apologize. i will apologize if i'm wrong. >> when was last time you apologized. >> i don't know. over a period of time -- here is the thing. i'm never wrong, okay. >> reporter: then relaxed and entertaining and occasionally alarming. >> i have built a weapon system that nobody has ever will in this country before. we have stuff that you haven't even seen or heard before. we stuff that putin and xi have never heard about before. >> reporter: just as he has in public, trump praised the russian president. >> respect putin and i think he likes me. >> reporter: but he was equally afusive about the north korea leader. >> the cia said about kim jong-un that he's cunnin

his new audio book titled "the trump tapes: bob woodward's 20 interviews with president donald trump" goes on sale tomorrow. bob, this is a first for you. why so important to release these audiotapes? >> we have bob's -- his video shot just froze but we'll get him back. i can answer that question by reading from a new piece that bob put out explaining why he put the interviews out. and this is what it says. "the piece is entitled the trump tapes: 20 interviews that show why he is an unparalleled danger," and bob writes in part, "in more than 50 years of reporting, i have never disclosed the raw interviews or full transcripts of my work. but after listening again to the 20 interviews i conducted with president donald trump during his last year as chief executive, i've decided to take the unusual step of releasing them. i was struck by how trump pounded in my ears in a way the printed page cannot capture. in their totality, these interviews offer an unvarnished portrait of trump. you hear trump in his own words, in his own voice during one of the most consequential years in american his

legendary "washington post" reporter bob woodward knows more about the intersection of laws and white houses. and he had more access to donald trump than most. he released eight new hours of audio. those tapes, and mr. woodward is back on "the beat" next. t" next. ? it's fineeeeeeee! ugh! advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. meet leon the third... leon the second... and leon... the first of them all. three generations, who all bank differently with chase. leon's saving up for his first set of wheels... nice try. really? this leon's paying for his paint job on the spot... and this leon, as a chase private client, he's in the south of france, taking out cash with no atm fees. that's because this family of leons has chase. actually, it's león. ooh la la! one bank for now. for later. for life. chase. make more of what's yours. among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect tha

his new audio book "the trump tapes," bob woodward's 20 interviews with president trump out today.nk you for doing this. there is a difference between reading something and hearing something. this is so instructive. do you understand him now? >> that's a great question. no. i don't. but i'm able to report on him and we hear his voice at these times of stress or -- where he has to make decisions, and i think the bottom line, you don't have to listen to -- if you listen to all of it, you'll see he does not understand the presidency. does not understand his responsibility. and that's key to being president. it is not just all about the president, himself. he's got to tune into what the people need, what the crises are and you see trump pulling back and particularly on the virus, covering up. >> it is about leadership, being president is about leadership. and particularly on covid, you were asking him about that. i want to listen to one exchange. >> was there a moment in all of this last two months where you said to yourself, this is the leadership test of a lifetime? >> no. >> no. bob

to bob woodward in realtime and listen to what he says. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. i -- >> i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob, you know. what you make a photostat. >> no, i dictated them into a

bob woodward is doing something he's never done before., you're in the room. what you hear is donald trump unvarnished, blunt, profane, no surprise. he is attacking people he doesn't like. he is boasting about himself, and here's a sense of what you hear. >> hi, bob. my whole life has been deals. i've done great, far greater than people understand. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. law and order, bob, law and order. >> why don't you give me your -- >> i said to the king, you have to -- if it weren't for us. >> why don't you give me your taxes. he didn't get his taxes, but he got a lot of other things there are also moment that probably made he security staff very unhappy, such as where trump shared classified documents with bob woodward, such as those now infamous love letters from north korean dictator kim jong-un that we know trump took to mar alaggo. listen to what trump says to bob woodward as he hands them over. >> nobody else has them, but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i

joining us bob woodward from "the washington post." his new audio book is titled "the trump tapes." ce a week. >> thank you. >> saying the truth emerges. the truth emerges and your tapes go a long way toward helping the truth emerge. let me first ask you why you put them out there. >> because i listened to them earlier this year and i did not realize i was finishing the book "rage" which we put some of these tapes out, but not eight hours and when you listen to the eight hours, you realize that trump put the presidency in moral freefall, literally time and time again looking out for himself, not the country, not focusing on what are the needs of the people. you hear his voice roar, literally roar and say, this is the way it is. i'm the only one who knows when he's making delicate negotiations with north korea, i asked what are you trying to do? get the thug kim jong-un to the bargaining table, and trump says, no, no, it's -- you know, it's instinct. well, the idea that instinct is driving this is part of the moral freefall and it's also something that just horrified his national secu

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woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> my whole life has been deals. i've done great.er than people understand. i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> it's law and order, bob, law and order. >> why don't you give me your -- >> seriously. >> you got -- >> jamie gangle obtained this audio book. tell us more. >> you're in the room. no surprise this is donald trump unvarnished, profane, blunt, he trashes people he doesn't like. he boasts about himself and he shares with woodward documents that you can be sure his national security advisers, their heads were exploding starting with those now infamous love letters from kim jong-un. you hear him handing them over to bob woodward in realtime and listen to what he says. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. i -- >> i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob, you know. what you make a photostat. >> no, i dictated them into a

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> president trump, how are you? etimes woodward's wife answered the calls, which came day or night. >> we joke. i say there's princess diana, that there were three people in this marriage, bob, me and donald trump. it was sort of never ending. >> the phone would ring. is it a robocall or trump? >> go ahead, mr. president, you are connected. >> hi, bob. >> reporter: he scattered tape recorders around the house to be ready. >> i'm turning my recorder on here as i always do. >> reporter: donald trump would talk -- >> i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> reporter: and talk. >> i said to the king, king, you gotta pass for protection. >> reporter: on the pandemic, north korea, russia, race relations, just about anything. >> i bring rage out. i do bring rage out. i always have. i don't know if that's an asset or a liability. whatever it is, i do. >> reporter: there were 16 phone calls. 20 interviews all told. eight hours of conversations. which woodward has compiled into an audio book, "the trump

stand by to hear some of then president trump's revealing recorded interviews with journalists bob woodward including trump boasting about the letters that sparked the mar-a-lago documents investigation. >>> as early voting in georgia sets records right now, the high stakes midterm election is now only three weeks away. we're following flash points in the battle for control of congress including a new promise by president biden on abortion rights for women. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're "the situation room." >>> our top story this hour, wide spread blackouts across ukraine as russia strikes major power and water facilities. ukrainian officials warning that moscow's attacks have already destroyed nearly a third of their energy infrastructure. cnn senior international correspondent fled pleitgen has our report. >> reporter: russia hitting ukraine's infrastructure with massive strikes across the country. power plants in several regions targeted by both drones and cruise missiles. this video shows ukraine taking down one of them

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joining us right now is bob woodward, cnn political analyst, carl bernstein.her, they broke some of the biggest stories in watergate scandal separately. they remain prolific authors, investigative reporters, and bob gates, one of the leading -- one of the moments we've just seen. bob, you just watch this for the first time. as you reflect, what sticks out to you? >> but what it tells us about donald trump, i. i mean, the idea that he was watching this, the case has been made that it's prove-able that he's behind this. so, where's the common decency? and then as you noted, the republican leaders, kevin mccarthy from the house, mitch mcconnell from the senate, are in on this. they are meeting with pelosi and schumer. they are trying to get out of it, and what are the relations that no one had donald trump's cell phone number or knew how to get a hold of him? in a way. and then i guess the third thing, which is so important, there is a moral authority dimension to the presidency. the president, as we know, somebody will get detained illegally in russia, china, ir

annoyed at having been interviewed by bob woodward? >> well, he did interviews with maggie haberman, too, for her book. and then goes on twitter, or whatever, truth social, sorry, and bad-mouths her. i mean, i think the truth of the matter, he can't quit us. he can't talk with us, he just can't. journalists, as much as he wants to own, like, as much as he wants to stay in his comfort zone and only talk to people in other channels, you know, challenging him all that much, he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times and elsewhere. >> and cnn. >> i found it interesting, though, he thought about it. the idea of him releasing all the states and the motivation that he spoke to about the reasons why doing so, and in a way, i wonder if he will be questioned in terms of trying to put the thumb on the scale, for whatever reason. there's often criticism towards journalists that suggests the types of stories you publish and the ones you want to put forward somehow lead people to question what your role is, or why you are trying

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bob woodward releases the audio of his shocking interviews with donald trump. phone beeps. gate scandal. and every president since, from nixon to biden has sat for interviews with the veteran reporter. ten presidents in a row. but he says one stood out above the rest as an "unparalleled danger" to the united states — someone who i'm sure you will recognise. the trump presidency had so many twists and turns that woodward penned three best selling books on the rise and fall of his four years in office. but now he says there is more to tell. that his books simply "didn't go far enough". and so he has decided to publish the tapes of his 20 interviews with the president spanning his entire four years. he sat down for a special interview with me a short time ago to discuss what he learnt, and his warnings about what could come if donald trump makes a return in 2024. i makes a return in 2024. began by asking him why this i began by asking him why he felt this was the type —— right time to release the tape. i this was the type -- right time to release the tape.— this was the type --

it is at least referenced, bob woodward's notes are at the university of texas.he was the first person to interview leon jaworski after jaworski had left washington. jaworski left after the cover-up trial was underway. on december 5th, 1974, he is sitting down with jaworski. he must have said, wow, you caused quite a change in washington. you got nixon to resign. you handled it through the pardon. there is this quote, it's tightly can't miss it. says, there were a number of one-on-one conversations that only he and the other party know about. then the next paragraph, this is the top page of the interview! the next paragraph, jaworski goes on to say, you know? the house impeachment inquiry didn't have any idea what they were doing. we staffed them. we supplied them with what they needed to bring their against nixon. here are two incredible leads for bob woodward. who could jaworski be talking about? he was talking about secret meetings with judge so raqqa. we know now that they occurred. there was no follow-up, there was no interest on the story on the other side

bob woodward's notes are at the university of texas? and he was first person to interview leon jaworski after jaworski had left washington and and jaworski left before the cover-up trial was underway. so on december 5th 1974. he sitting down with jaworski. and he must have said wow, you caused quite a change in washington. you know, you got nixon de resign you you handle it through the through the pardon. and then there's this code it's type so you can't miss it. says there were a number of one-on-one conversations. they'd only he and the other party know about. and then the next paragraph this is the top page of the interview the next paragraph jaworski goes on to say you know the house impeachment inquiry really didn't know he didn't have any idea what they were doing. so we staffed them. we supplied them with what they needed to bring their charges against nixon. well, here are two incredible leads. for bob woodward me who could who could dwarski be talking about he was talking about meetings the secret meetings with judge, sureka. t

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> president trump, how are you? dward's wife, journalist elsa walsh, answered the calls, which came day or night. >> so we'd joke and i'd say there's like princess diana, that there were three people in this marriage, bob, me, and donald trump. and it was sort of never-ending. >> the phone would ring. is it a robocall, or is it trump? >> mr. president, you are connected. >> hi, bob. >> sir, how are you? >> reporter: woodward scattered tape recorders around the house to be ready for the surprise calls. >> i'm turning my recorder on here as i always do. >> reporter: and donald trump would talk. >> i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> reporter: and talk. >> i said to the king, king, you got to pass for protection. >> reporter: on the pandemic, north korea, race relations, just about everything. >> i bring rage out. i do bring range out. i always have. i don't know if that's an asset or a liability, but whatever it is, i do. >> reporter: there were 16 phone calls, 20 interviews all told, 8 hour

but then is often annoyed at being interviewed by bob woodward. >> he did interviews with maggie haberman to for her book. that goes on twitter, or truth social, sorry and bad-mouthed her. i mean, i think the truth the matter is he can't quit us. he can't quit us journalist. as much as he wants to own -- as much as he wants the stain of corporate zone and talk to people in the channel. he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times. >> i found interesting. the idea of him releasing, on these, tapes the motivation that he spoke to about for the reasons why doing so. anyway i wonder if you will be questioned in terms of trying to put the thumb on the scale, for whatever reason. there's often with criticism towards journalist that suggest that, you know, the type of stories he published. the ones you want to put forward. somehow leads people to question what your role is. or why you're trying to make it known. i think it's perfectly one for the people to express a lot of things for the tapes out there. i do wonder if the backlash will be given the motivation he spoke about. >

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suggest former president trump knew he was sharing classified information with the journalist bob woodward is releasing an audio book after spending time with trump in 2019 in a clip that was released last night. trump can be heard showing woodward the 27 letters that were written to him by north korean leader kim jong. un. trump acknowledges he should not be showing woodward the letters nobody else has done, but i wanted to treat them with respect. i haven't understand, understand, and don't say i gave them to you. okay but i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have given. i wasn't going to give him the what you make a photostat of them or something dictated them into tape recorder. trump refused to show woodward the letters he sent to kim calling those top secret letters were reportedly among the classified items that were seized at mar a lago. a developing story in the national football league. team owners under fire for allegedly spying on other owners to dig up dirt on them. dan snyder denies those claims with the controversy could be the last straw after a wave of other allegations

also there was an important article bob woodward wrote a few years ago how gingrich was actively engagedgeorge h.w. bush. and he saw the way the wind was blowing, he may have had some knowledge bob michael was going to retire. he could see the southern democrats were just on the brink of becoming republicans and this would create the possibility of a republican majority. somehow i see these events as being interrelated and i was in the middle of it working the reagan white house and then at the treasury department involved in raising taxes and things of that sort. and one of the few reagan people who survived the bush transition. he fired everybody as if he was a t democrat and a lot of people did not forget that and it came back to haunt him and 92. >> that's great because there is little that of the counterfactual a point to in the book that jack kemp was a policy entrepreneur even with gingrich. that guy with a few too many ideas and filled the vacuum. but remember jack kemp comes out against direction on —- proposition 187 and there is that moment in 1996 when people start floating t

we've obtained a copy of the new audio book by journalist bob woodward containing 20 interviews over four years with former president donald trump. it's called "the trump tapes." woodward is releasing them because hearing trump speak is completely different experience than reading transcripts or listening to snippets of sound on tv. some deal with letters from kim jong-un which are now at the heart of the justice department's classified documents investigations. trump shared them with woodward. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> understand. understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. >> but i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob but you make a photostat of them? >> no, i dictated them into a tape recorder. >> really? >> well, in another interview trump is writing a speech after the death of george floyd when he declared himself the law and order president. >> did somebody help you? >> yeah. i get -- i get people, they come up with ideas, but the ideas are mine, bob. mine. you want to know so

also there was an important article bob woodward go to a few years ago about how gingrich was activelyngaged in the defeat of george hw bush. and this is i think he saw the way the wind was blowing he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire. these would create the possibility of the republican majority and so somehow i see these events as being interrelated, and i was sort ofe right in the middle of ited because i worked with of the reagan white houser and then i was over at the treasury department where we were involved in raising taxes and thingsgs of that sort. i was one of the very few who survived the bush transition. i mean,, he fired everybody just as if he was a democrat and a lot of people didn't forget that and it came back to haunt him in 1992. so anyway, that was all i had to say. >> there is a little bit of the counterfactual that i point to in the book. partly that jack kemp really was this entrepreneur and gingrich was a policy entrepreneur, he had a few too many ideas and so he feels that vacuum but also remember, jack kemp also comes out agains

you broke the watergate scandal, as we all remember, along with bob woodward.certainly changed the course of american history. how do you believe these select committee hearings will be remembered? >> well, there's a big difference. and that is the republican leadership in watergate marched down to the oval office and told richard nixon he had to leave office because he was a criminal president. the republican leadership has done just the opposite here. they have been silent. they have called this investigation a partisan witch hunt. it is anything but, and at the same time the information developed by this committee gives a minute-by-minute tick tock of how this attempt at a coup began before the election, how it proceeded through the election, and we now have information being turned over to the justice department developed by this committee that is irrefutable. we also at the end of this hearing today were given a list of five or six people closest to the president, bannon, mark meadows, flynn, roger stone, who are under investigation and they are the wall o

there was information coming in through secure channels how severe this would be when i heard the bob woodwardew i was as shocked as america was because when i arrived and when i say no one, i mean no one in the white house from the nsc to the cia to the vice president and president, no one shared with me they had an understanding about the severity. my feeling was there not taking it as significantly as i think it's going to be and that's why we have to make changes but it was very disconcerting to find out the woodward interview course june or july of 2020, i was shocked still no one showed me it existed so to this day, i've never seen that document that talks about the severity. the reason i knew it would be severe is you could see on social media hospitals were getting overwhelmed in january. at the same time china saying we don't think there's human to human i transmission so if i see the social media posts, the who should have seen the social media posts and they should have gone to the world and said the virus highly contagious spreading rapidly and results in significant analyst and th

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president's time in office from investigative journalist and grandpa at the zoo who just saw a penguin, bob woodwardsed several books about the former president based on phone interviews. and now he's releasing an audiobook containing recordings of the full eight hours of interviews. wood w5rd described the former president as "the wrong man for the job." now, after relistening to the audio, he says, "i realize i didn't go far enough. the former president is an unparalleled danger." really, bob? now you're realizing this? i look forward to your next op-ed: "something seems off about this harvey weinstein guy." ( laughter ) ( applause ) oop-ed. op-ed. op-ed. how's it going? "the washington post" published a few of the clips. and, yeah, they're bad. here's how the former president spoke about covid at the height of the pandemic. >> was there a moment in all of this, last two months, where you said to yourself, "ah, this is the leadership test of a lifetime"? >> no. i don't take responsibility for this. >> stephen: it's also what he says on eric's birthday. the recordings-- ( applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪ the recor

also there was a person article that bob woodward wrote a few years ago about how gingrich was actively engaged in defeat of george h.w. bush in 1992, i huge he saw the way the wind was blowing, he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire, he could see that all of these southern democrats were just on the brink of all becoming republicans, and this would create a possibility of a republican majority. and so i don't know, somehow i see these events as being interrelated. i was sort of right in the middle of it i worked in reagan white house, then i was over at treasury department we were involved in raising taxes and things of that sort. i was one of few reagan people who survived. the bushn. transition, he fired everyone just as if he was a democrat. hey lot of people didn't forget that, it came back it haunt him in 92. >> there is a little bit of counter factual that i point to in the back, partly he was a that entrepreneur anduy newt gingrich was also a policyny entrepreneur, he filled that vacuum but also remember. kemp comes out against proposition 187, this

when i heard bob woodward interview, i was as shocked as america was.say no one, i mean no one in the white house from the nsc to the cia to the vice president or president, no one shared that they had an understanding about the severity. my feeling was they are not taking this as significantly as i think it will be and why we have to make changes but that was disconcerting to me, i think the interview was july 2020, i waswe shocked. to this day, i've never seen the document that talks about the severity. the reason i knew it was going to be severe is you could see on social media hospitals were getting overwhelmed in january. at thehe same time, china saying we don't think there is human to human transmission so if i'm seeing social media posts, the who should have been seen the social media post and they should have gone to the world and said this virus is highly contagious, spreading rapidly and results in significant illness0 and those over 70. i am still surprised by that, the data was out there. it may not have been coming from china exactly but t

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andfe also there was an importat article bob woodward wrote a few years ago about how gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george h.w. bush in 1992. i think he saw the way the wind was blowing. he may have had some knowledge he could see all these southern democrats were on the brink this would create republican majority. somehow i seese these events as being interrelated. it was sorta bright right in the middle of that was working the reagan white house and the notes at the dip department with raising taxes and that sort. i was one of the very few reagan people who survived the bush transition. i mean he fired everybody just as if he was a democrat. and a lot of people did not forget that and it came back to haunt him and 92. all i had to say. >> this is great this little counterfactual part that jack kemp was a policy entrepreneur and gingrich to with the policy entrepreneur. the sick out the few too many ideas so he feels that vacuum. also met with jack kemp comes against proposition 187. it is not the direction the republican party should go. there is that moment in 1996 peopl

also there is an important article that bob woodward wrote a few years ago about gingrich was activelyngaged in the defeat of george h.w. bush in 1997. the way the wind wasn't blowing he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retireso. he could see all the southern democrats are just on the brink of all becoming republicans. this would create the possibility of a republican majority. somehow i see these events being interrelated. i was in the middle of it i worked in the reagan white house and i was over at the treasury department we were involved in raising taxes that was one of the very few reagan people survived. a lot of people did not forget that and it came back to haunt him and 92. so anyway, that's all i had to save your. >> that is great there is ae little bit of the counterfactual sapolsky entrepreneur. the guy with a few too many ideas. he feels that vacuum. also remember comes out against proposition 187. this is not the direction thed republican party should go. and i remember there is that moment in 1996 people start floating the idea that colin powell

. >> all right, let's get closely to new sound coming out bob woodward's audiotapes with president trump, he has been releasing all of these -- donald trump in his own words, sir, this is the moment we heard for the first time this evening, and it is about how he was explaining the coded outbreak to his 13-year-old son, baron. >> i wanted to capture the moment where your son, baron, asked you about this. >> well, he's just turning 14, so he was 13, upstairs in his bedroom in the white house and he said dad, what is going on? i said it came out of china, baron. pure and simple, it came out of china and should have been stopped. to be honest with you, they should have let it be known it was a problem two months earlier, and the world would not -- have 141 card countries have analogous of the world will not have a problem that we could have stopped it easily. >> well, i mean that is not wrong. if china had been more transparent about it. >> it is not your typical father-son conversation. presidents don't have typical father-son conversation sometimes began, what he said was right. it just i