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as you've sort of seen. >> bob woodward still with us.u hear him say he was too busy to deal with the boxes, what do you hear in that answer? >> that he's not busy. quite honestly. >> yeah. >> that it's a way of, oh, i'm busy. i would talk to him, you can hear this on the tapes. he'd say, i can't talk for long, i've got the joint chiefs downstairs. and then he'd talk for 25 minutes. >> he would tell you the joint chiefs, armed services are there, and oh, i'm just talking to you? >> it's on the tape. so the question looms here, you know. who is he? what kind of person? what does he care about? >> people know your watergate reporting. you also reported about the decision to pardon former president nixon. something you and i have discussed. the reason, though, that nixon took the pardon was that he understood the fact that he could be prosecuted, that he could be convicted that he could go to prison. the way him and kissinger were praying, there was the fear that he mused about, that he would spend his last days in a cell. now we have this p

we spent time with bob woodward in his washington home.share a new part of this interview as this 80-year-old showed his acute mind in our quick lightning round. >> so our lightning round in conclusion. >> yes, yes. >> how i like to end it with everyone. if you can answer in a word or a sentence, the best thing about being a reporter is -- >> you get up in the morning and think, what are the bastards hiding. >> best advice you've gotten. >> katherine graham, be aware of the demon. be aware of the demon. >> the president that was the most challenging to cover. >> they are all challenging. they are all challenging. and they're all hidden and masked to a certain extent. so, i've never -- the only one i finally -- but this was 25 years after he left office, was jared ford. i spent much time going up from rancho mirage and his house in california interviewing seven times about the pardon and finally got the answer to why the pardon. and it was -- it had to do with him finally understanding he's not a politician who has to worry about how is tha

last days. '89 film based on bob woodward's documentary book about dramatic end to career.on. in the role of nixon, lane smith, in the role of brezhnev, boris sichkin, the unforgettable buba kostorsky of the elusive. no, this is not a parody, but a fairly accurate description of the trip of the soviet general secretary to the usa in the summer of 7. and the pofios of détente, leonid leuch was given a lincoln, in which he took nixon for a ride around camp david, and then the president invited him to his personal californian. estate, there are geriatrics of history, half a century later, again california, again détente, again a luxurious limousine, only now the american leader respectfully strokes the foreign car, the chinese hongqi, the red banner, what a beautiful car, my hongqi car is made in china, open it, look inside, it looks like the codelac that we have there, every time on international trips, this car follows me , thank you, see you tomorrow us president joe biden and chinese president xijen ping met in san francisco ahead of the asia-pacific economic cooperation o

bob woodward. next familiar face. lesley stahl is amg america's most respected, experienced broadcast journalists during her more than 30 year career as a 60 minutes correspondent, lesley has received 13 emmy awards. she served, as cbs news white house correspondent. from 1972 to 1991. as a young journalist, she cut her teeth on the watergate story. please welcome the incoming rebel, lesley stahl. and finally, j t smith served the ntral intelligence agency before becoming executive assistant to elliot richardson, first, when richardson served as secretary of agwext to secretary of defense and finally in may of 1973, when richardson nameattorney general by president nixon. in later years, jt served as general counsel of the commerce department and deputies, speal representative of the u.s. at the u.n. law of the sea conference. he's a partner of covington burling. please welco j t smith and all of our distinguished panelists. so i'm going to start you, bob, for the benefit of members of the audience may not have been a

my faces on the cover of the book.it he did work on this book with bob woodward.everal copies of it. i wish we could pass it around. he really was the man and it seems looking back it should have been obvious that i didn't have anybody, i was in the dark period of my life and almost complete isolation and people who i was and i said from where my former friends that i could be my authentic self with. when i read this book that alex had worked on with bob woodward i felt i could relate to him in his journey but also who he was. it inspired me to start to try to correct course and try to find a second chance. and there were many people in the story who i pay tribute to. alex is one. he's an incredible american. it's unfortunate that the few years after watergate we are in a position we are dealing with this the result of another corrupt presidency. >> so one person asked a question which is how do you have the poise and maturity to handle your job and your testimony? >> you had not left at that point. trump world. >> during the testimony? during the testimony i was

so he did work on this book with bob woodward. so i ordered several copies of it. you could see, i mean, this tabbed. i wish we could pass it around, although it's a little embarrassing but he really was the man and it seems now looking back it was should have seemed so obvious. but i didn't really have anybody in my i was in a very dark period of my life. and this period of almost complete isolation of people who i wasn't isolated from were my former friends in trump world, who i wasn't being my authentic self with. so when i read this book that alex had worked on with bob woodward, he's alex became my friend in these pages and i felt i could relate to him and his journey, but also like who he was and he inspired me to then, you know, start to try to correct course and try to find a second chance. so you know, there are many people in this journey who i pay tribute to, but alex is one that he is just another incredible american. and but, you know, it's it's unfortunate that that 50 years after watergate, we're in a position where we're dealing with the results of

but he did work on this book with bob woodward. so i ordered several copies of it.could see, i mean i wish we could pass it around embarrassing but he really was the man and a scene so looking back it should it seems obvious but i didn't really have anybody in -- i was in a very dark place in mymp life, period, almost complete isolation. people what was isolated from my former friends and trump world what wasn't the my authentic self with. soth when event this book that alex had worked on with bob woodward, alex became my friend in these pages and he felt i could relate to him in his journey but also like who he was, and he inspired me to then, you know, start to try to correct course and try to find a second chance. there are many people in this journey what a tribute to what alex is one that he is just another incredible american. it's's unfortunate that that 50 years after watergate we are in a position where wee' did with e results of another corrupt presidency. >> yeah. so, one person asks an interesting question which is how do you have the poise and maturity

be afraid, this is not my first day behind the wheel, the last days: a film from 1989 based on bob woodward’sentary book about the dramatic end of the career of us president richard nixon. in the role of nixon lane smith, in the role of brezhnev, boris sichkin, the unforgettable buba kostorsky from the elusive. no, this is not a parody, but a fairly accurate description of the trip of the soviet general secretary. in the united states in the summer of seventy -three, and the spirit of detente, leonid ilyach was given a lincoln, in which he took nixon for a ride around camp david, and then the president invited him to his personal california estate. there are rhymes in history. half a century later, again california, again détente, again a luxury limousine. only now the american leader with respect strokes the foreign car. chinese hongqi, red banner, what a beautiful car, my car is made in china, open it, look inside, it looks like the codelac that we have there, every time on international trips this car follows me, you know what they call it, a beast, thanks, see you tomorrow. us president j

see this with trump books time and time again, jonathan karl written three, maggie wrote three, bob woodward these will write about biden, the money is writing about the trump book. the reason i bring this up, harry and meghan are the version of trump over in the united kingdom. in this biographer is very friendly towards them and harry and meghan obviously are not big fans of the royal family. they accused the queen of the invasive senescence. when you read these and there based on name sources or sources close to the king. unless i see a name next to have a trouble believing it. alicia: we have more, have to continue to read it. here is a quote from the book, there is even a rumor one that surprisingly sources have confirmed that charles likes to have someone squeeze exactly 1 inch of toothpaste onto his toothbrush for him ahead of his bedtime routine. this list goes on and on. some of it is sad. there is one point that the author makes us as king charles referred to his son prince harry as a fool when he participated in the netflix documentary. the list goes on and on. he goes on to slam

. >>> finally tonight, watergate reporter and icon bob woodward joined us and i want to tell you youat msnbc.com/ari. easy to type in, easy to remember. msnbc.com/ari. we have the full 90-minute conversation in mr. woodward's washington home and library. if you want to see more of what he told us, we showed you some last night. "the reidout" with joy reid starts right now. >>> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> you want to run your

. >>> finally tonight, watergate reporter and icon bob woodward joined us and i want to tell you you can see our full interview at our youtube playlist at msnbc.com/ari. easy to type in, easy to remember. msnbc.com/ari. we have the full 90-minute conversation in mr. woodward's washington home and library. if you want to see more of what he told us, we showed you some last night. "the reidout" with joy reid starts right now. >>> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults and finish it here. >> that's fine, perfect. >> want to do it now? >> i would love it. >> stand your butt up. >> stand your butt up. >> stop it. >> sit down. sit down. you're a united states senator. sit down. sit down please. >> let's get ready to rumble! three days until a possible shutdown and what were republicans doing today? shoving each other in the hallway, screaming at their colleagues and challenging committee witnesses to fight. >>> plus, tens of thousands of people gathered on the national mall for the march on israel as we're learning new details about a pos

so when i read this book that alex said it works out with bob woodward alex became my friend in d.c. i feltel like i could relate to him and his journey but also cool he was and he inspired me to start to try to correct portions and find a second chance. there are many people on this journey that i pay tribute to but alex is one he's just another incredible american. it is unfortunate that 50 years after watergate we are in a position weird to you with the results of another crop presidency. >> es. so one person asked a question which was how you have the poison maturity to handle your job and your testimony? because you had not left at that point. trump world. >> during the testimony i was pretty much cut off. [laughter] cracks weren't they still entertaining the delusion you might watch your words? >> i don't know. i'll leave that question to them. but from my perspective think the moment i retained counsel they had a good exit not that i would testify at life but is willing to be more forthcoming i'd also back channel four a thirdth interview without my former attorney's knowledge

mayhew, in whoseemory i've written this book, allison i've worked th david maraniss as editor bob woodward's editor, tony lucas doris kearns goodwin. it's an honor to have been edited by alice allon. i had a diffent way of working which was her way which really helped me which s that knowing i'm a recluse when i'm working on a book every three or six months, you wod invite me to or lunch and we uld end up doing all of the conceptual editing of a book just over the of those lunches. so that by the time i was handing in muscript, we agreed on the big picture of the book. we understood the narrative of the book, andhat made the line go much more smooth dly. i also have to say this is the kind of editor alice was. she detail escaped her. thlast book i wrote for her was called breaking the line. it was about hpc, youth football, the civil rits movement. and the book is all done. it's going into production. we chosen the photos for photo insert and i sent in my captions and i'm with my wi going to kennedy airport to go an vit our son in madrid, where he's doinstudy abroad. my cell phone ringslice

democratic leader hakeem jeffries to people across the culture like robert de niro, cyndi lauper, or bob woodwardsts which includes like harlem artist dave east who talked with us from everything from police reform to what really marks a strong person to how his music has come to reflect on his life being the father of two daughters. >> i feel like people are more into power than love. you know what i mean? >> the nypd need to fall back this week. it's happening everywhere, but i'm from new york city, so it bothers me that the cops that police me and my family, you know what i'm saying, is killing innocent people. >> dave, sometimes people act more certain than they are to appear strong. you see that? >> i believe that. i feel like it's losing 90% of the time. you may do that more to seem more certain. >> i agree with that. any strength over you becomes a liability. >> you had this line, we would go hustle so eagerly, watch what i say now because my daughter repeating me. >> she's repeating me. i'm mature now, a father now. now i have to watch my every move, what i say, who i'm around, i have to

what was something that bob woodward had been using for many years, and it was derived from a federal federal judge's ruling. and it didn't really go back to watergate. but it was more recent than that. but a lot of people were nervous that. i was too, because most marketers would tell you don't put death and darkness in your slogan. but we did anyway. and proved to be a hugely with some portion of a big portion of the population not so popular with the trump folks. of course. and a lot of people mocked it, but when they mocked it, bezos was he was thrilled. he said people actually, which is not the case. a lot of mottos for a lot of companies and few media owners understand product and audience as well, probably as jeff bezos. steve, let's shift over to. you know, we'll start with the title of your book. the term shadow docket was coined around 2015 by university of chicago law scholar, actually conservative one named will bodie and at the time he kind of meant a little bit more descriptively rather than normatively. you have kind done a lot and played a big role in popularizing or e

my favorite thing about reading the washington read it, the washington read one of bob woodward's books. i don't remember which one it was the first one i think he did on the bush 43 administration. i flipped to it and torie clarke, you know, he listed my name as victoria, a clerk. now, usually people misspell clerk. he got that right. that letter, a, i don't have a middle name. not only is it not a so i like to say i'm one of the few people about whom paul werber has made a factual mistake. how do you how do you spell clerk with an e at the end with an often gets misspelled and you know go by tori tori often gets misspelled. do you bring your republic and sensibilities into your interviews? you have a long background as a reporter. sure. i like to say conservative. i like to say conservative. i i'm sure i do. it's not front of brain. i think i probably try to put that aside. it's more the experi ences i've had. so, for instance, i worked in the us trade representative office under carla hills. so when some say ken follett starts taking medieval examples of geopolitical things going on

bob woodward, it is great having you. nobody said any such thing in your ear.poll as well. and frank foer, you are tree to go to your children's teachers. >> i have to go to a parent/teacher conference. this block has gone on. hopefully i will make it on time for algebra ii. >> that's a tough one. >>> coming up, we'll be going through the controversy over moving the fbi headquarters to maryland. the head of the agency says he has concerns about the selection process. we're going to talk about that and much more with maryland's governor, wes moore when "morning joe" returns. governor, wes moore when "morning joe" returns. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improvement, and reduced flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your do

my favorite thing about reading the washington read it, the washington read one of bob woodward's books. i don't remember which one it was the first one i think he did on the bush 43 administration. i flipped to it and torie clarke, you know, he listed my name as victoria, a clerk. now, usually people misspell clerk. he got that right. that letter, a, i don't have a middle name. not only is it not a so i like to say i'm one of the few people about whom paul werber has made a factual mistake. how do you how do you spell clerk with an e at the end with an often gets misspelled and you know go by tori tori often gets misspelled. do you bring your republic and sensibilities into your interviews? you have a long background as a reporter. sure. i like to say conservative. i like to say conservative. i i'm sure i do. it's not front of brain. i think i probably try to put that aside. it's more the experi ences i've had. so, for instance, i worked in the us trade representative office under carla hills. so when some say ken follett starts taking medieval examples of geopolitical things going on

because we all talk about chuck todd, bob woodward and all these people. all they care about access in washington. they want to be part of the what's what's for progressive journalists like for you. because obviously you could talk to bernie's people, you can talk to aoc people, but what's it like, you know, you had joe manchin the show. what's that look like from your because i've always been curious and the second question is, in a state like new york, in a state like california, it's even like state like new jersey. this problem of the media markets are so expensive especially in california how you run a statewide race and have a progressive incumbent. i mean, gavin newsom climbed that ladder one by one. and, you know, him and nancy pelosi and feinstein, it's like they took years to get, you know, to achieve that return on investment, as you call it, to get the money to run statewide campaign. how is it even possible? it's not delaware. you can't go door to door. there's too many people. it's too expensive. so i want your thoughts on both of those thing

my favorite thing about reading the washington read it, the washington read one of bob woodward's books. i don't remember which one. it was the first one i think he did on the bush 43 administration. i flipped it and i thought, you know, he listed my name as victoria, a clerk. now, usually misspell clerk. he got that right. that letter a, i don't have a middle name, but only is it not. a so i like to say i'm one of the few people about whom paul werber has made a factual mistake. how do you how do you spell clerk with an e at the end with an e often gets misspelled and you know, go by tory t0ri often gets misspelled. do you bring your republican sensibilities into your interviews? you have a long background as a republican. you're i like to say, conservative. i like to say conservative. i i'm sure i do. it's not front of brain. i think i probably try to put that aside, it's more the experiences i've had. so for instance, i worked in the u.s. trade representative office under carla hills. so when some say ken follett starts taking medieval examples of geopolitical things going on today,