but that was the indication that the house and senate -- the bobby baker scandal in the senate around the same time -- needed to systematize -- needed to have a code of conduct, needed to have disclosure rules and needed to have some restrictions on lobbying, but also needed to have a committee, a bipartisan committee, if you will, that oversaw ethics complaints in a systematic way, rather than have to create special select committees on an ad hoc basis. >> you write, "nine senators and 22 representatives have been censured as a punishment for wrong-doing." anything like that in the house of commons? >> oh, yes. see, 15 to 20 years after the issues arose in congress, they arose in parliament. and it began as an instance of members were being accused of taking money to ask questions. and from then on, the house paid more and more attention to ethical problems. it has always been -- again, as it had been in congress -- a code of honor. it just couldn't carry on in that way, because the public wanted to be completely assured, i think, that there was no monkey business. and on and on we w