. >> and he would say bobby buble in one club and low remarks awls at the other. -- lou rawls at the other. and i got to play with everybody who was big, you know. they called it the chipman circuit. coming from vallejo, i thought i was -- man. heaven. i mean i got to play with and talk with the greatest r&b. >> uh-huh. >> entertainers in the world. i mean it doesn't get better than that eta james, lou rawls, bernie andrews. >> right. >> and charles muscle white? >> yeah. i played on a record with him years ago. and so, it was great for me. >> in the travels, i think i heard you say, that one of the most difficult things about being a musician is the travels. >> yeah. >> you don't miss that? >> no. i liked it, though, to go to bed in my own bed. >> yeah. >> you know. >> and i, at the time i had two kids. i never will forget. i played at the regal theater in chicago. >> uh-huh. >> and i, i got to meet some of the members of the band with lloyd price. and -- . >> another legend. >> yeah. >> and so, some of those musicians have been on the road with already price for years. >> he is sti